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Jul 21, 2021 at 23:04 comment added 0Valt @TheGeneral if you only feared, rejoice (?) at your fear being confirmed :)
Jul 4, 2021 at 9:47 vote accept Dalija PrasnikarMod
Jul 4, 2021 at 0:45 answer added hmedia1 timeline score: 3
Jul 3, 2021 at 8:47 comment added TheGeneral I fear this will be paid advertising in another form. As long as it doesn't devolve into google ranked SO powered product launches with a smattering of code, I guess I have bigger things to worry about
Jul 2, 2021 at 22:40 comment added 41686d6564 @DalijaPrasnikar I reworded the title because I thought it was a bit ambiguous. If you think it conflicts with your original intent, please feel free to rollback or edit further.
Jul 2, 2021 at 22:38 history edited 41686d6564 CC BY-SA 4.0
The title was a bit ambiguous. The old title could be interpreted as "Can articles ever be considered off-topic?" instead of "Are articles allowed to be off-topic?". The latter appears to be what the author intended.
Jul 2, 2021 at 22:07 answer added Cesar MStaffMod timeline score: 43
Jul 2, 2021 at 20:52 comment added zcoop98 And here's the screenshot then, for whenever cache is refreshed: i.sstatic.net/k2Zei.png
Jul 2, 2021 at 20:22 comment added Elias Holzmann ...as well as via Wayback machine (Yes, that's a capture of the Google cache. I feel kinda dirty now.)
Jul 2, 2021 at 20:22 comment added Elias Holzmann The article (although without downvotes and comments) is still available via Google cache...
Jul 2, 2021 at 19:45 answer added Robert Columbia timeline score: 19
Jul 2, 2021 at 18:44 comment added Dalija Prasnikar Mod @CodyGray I am no longer sure what is a bug and what is a feature :(
Jul 2, 2021 at 18:39 comment added Cody Gray Mod That's indeed another bug, @DalijaPrasnikar, and it's been reported to the development team. Mods can't see the deleted Article, either.
Jul 2, 2021 at 17:55 comment added Dalija Prasnikar Mod Oh, goodie... deleted articles seem to be unreachable for us mere mortals, no matter the reputation. Now I am sorry I haven't included the screenshot.
Jul 2, 2021 at 16:38 comment added cigien @CodyGray Oh, of course, I wasn't suggesting that users should vote differently. I just thought it would be an interesting data point. Questions on main don't typically reach -45 (which is the last score I saw), but I suspect that would trigger a ban. I'm not asking if it would, since that's not information that's shared, I was just commenting on it.
Jul 2, 2021 at 16:35 comment added Cody Gray Mod @cigien Articles don't appear to lead to question bans. And that wouldn't matter anyway. People should vote on content as they see it, not in order to game the system.
Jul 2, 2021 at 16:06 comment added iBug FYI: The said Article has since been deleted.
Jul 2, 2021 at 15:36 comment added cigien This is a bit of an aside, but the linked article is getting a lot of downvotes, so we might actually find out if a single question can lead to a question ban. Assuming, of course, that articles count towards post bans.
Jul 2, 2021 at 10:47 comment added Jeanne Dark Maybe we should start asking "Can Articles be on-topic?"
Jul 2, 2021 at 10:00 comment added Erik A Imo they shouldn't be closed, but deleted. Closure is to prevent answers while a question is salvageable. An article doesn't get answers, and an off-topic one isn't salvageable.
Jul 2, 2021 at 9:24 history edited iBug CC BY-SA 4.0
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Jul 2, 2021 at 8:31 comment added Gimby The answer is "of course yes, because for the people writing the articles all this stuff is completely new too". Naturally, there are going to be goofs. It's going to get a little messy at least for now.
Jul 2, 2021 at 6:56 comment added Dalija Prasnikar Mod @Nick People posting questions under collective tag, as answer to some article in 3.2,1...
Jul 2, 2021 at 6:22 answer added Peter Haddad timeline score: 39
Jul 2, 2021 at 3:07 comment added Nick is tired I'm curious to see how they intended to get answers to the questions in their "announcement". Very few users can post articles; It would be unwieldy to have them as comments; They'd be blatantly off topic as questions...
Jul 2, 2021 at 3:03 comment added 10 Rep @IanCampbell Good idea; but then too many of these Collective (tm) wikis and things get cluttered - since the point of articles is to be a repository of info just like Documentation.
Jul 1, 2021 at 23:03 history edited MachavityMod
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Jul 1, 2021 at 22:31 comment added Ian Campbell Can articles be marked as community wikis? Or maybe Collective™ wikis, or whatever? Perhaps that would be a reasonable compromise so that zero rep users don't receive reputation from non-technical posts?
Jul 1, 2021 at 21:34 comment added Don't Panic If this is really the type of thing for which the announcement article type is intended, I agree with others that votes on announcement articles certainly should not yield reputation.
Jul 1, 2021 at 21:30 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution The size of the score display in relation to the size of the vote buttons on articles is somewhat hilarious. Why did they make it the same as the normal Q&A?
Jul 1, 2021 at 21:24 comment added Baum mit Augen Mod @DalijaPrasnikar I hope so. We'll see.
Jul 1, 2021 at 21:19 comment added Joundill If people keep downvoting him, the asker is never going to get the required rep to join a chatroom.
Jul 1, 2021 at 21:18 comment added Dalija Prasnikar Mod @BaummitAugen I would expect that announcement would be more like announcement for new feature, library or similar accompanied with quick "How to start guide"
Jul 1, 2021 at 21:16 comment added Baum mit Augen Mod The original release post says: "Articles give Recognized Members the opportunity to provide deeper knowledge and insights through how-to-guides, knowledge articles, or announcements." While I'm not sure how announcements like this would "provide deeper knowledge and insights", I suppose that means this is supposed to be allowed by SE. Or maybe only announcements that do "provide deeper knowledge and insights" are? Anyway, in my opinion, this isn't useful content for SO.
Jul 1, 2021 at 20:21 comment added Jeanne Dark Looks a bit like the whole Collectives concept is not entirely compatible with the public Q&A that SO (still) is.
Jul 1, 2021 at 19:37 comment added Andrew T. This is kind of interesting, because Teams (which is private and doesn't have meta) also has Articles (and since Teams are private, they can be used for any purposes), while Collectives is public (and also doesn't have their own meta).
Jul 1, 2021 at 19:28 answer added zcoop98 timeline score: 42
Jul 1, 2021 at 19:27 history became hot meta post
Jul 1, 2021 at 18:58 comment added 41686d6564 @zcoop98 Maybe each collective should have a dedicated chat room?
Jul 1, 2021 at 18:57 answer added 10 Rep timeline score: 71
Jul 1, 2021 at 18:49 comment added cigien I'm strongly opposed to a post like that giving the OP reputation points. As you've mentioned, reputation gives privileges, and reputation gained from an off-topic post should not give one any privileges at all. If there were no reputation to be gained, I wouldn't care particularly; articles do look different than the main site, much like meta looks different, so it should be reasonably clear that articles are special.
Jul 1, 2021 at 18:46 comment added zcoop98 The fact that there is no intra-collective communication channel for a collective between its members is actually kinda... that sounds like an oversight to me. That will lead to that style of communication overflowing into existing channels, like this article. Maybe that in itself should be brought up in a feature-request of some sort.
Jul 1, 2021 at 18:43 comment added Kevin B There is no useful use for articles that the existing QA doesn't solve.
Jul 1, 2021 at 18:41 comment added zcoop98 Alternative take: Few, one-off FAQ or announcement-style articles, even meta ones, are a logical use of articles. There also is no meta for collectives, so maybe this should be allowed in some limited capacity.
Jul 1, 2021 at 18:41 comment added 10 Rep This is the stuff which I feared when collectives were created. That admin is writing the post with good faith but they don't know that SO is not a forum, and they don't know how SO works anyways. I think moderators can close and delete articles. In this case that article should be deleted and the admin should understand how SO works.
Jul 1, 2021 at 18:35 comment added Heretic Monkey I vote "Yes, of course they can be." They should be closed. But of course, since I am not a member of the Collective, I can only comment or share private feedback, not moderate or perform any kind of curation on it.
Jul 1, 2021 at 18:29 history asked Dalija PrasnikarMod CC BY-SA 4.0