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Apr 2, 2021 at 1:55 comment added Catija Staff @Braiam Ah - in my mind, that section is speaking about the close voter for a specific question - someone who has the time to handle the new question but not necessarily the willingness to take on a bigger problem. Those three things relate to what can be done to the new question, which your #4 wouldn't fit with - but the whole section that quote comes from is titled "How can we make canonical posts more useful within the current system?", so I don't think it's particularly hidden? ;)
Apr 2, 2021 at 1:52 comment added Braiam Well Catija, that's a way to bury the led. I was mainly focusing on your short list of "solutions available to a close voter". That is also available to the close voter, since they also have editing privileges ;)
Apr 1, 2021 at 16:00 comment added Catija Staff @Braiam "In some cases, the canonical just got too broad, as BoltClock said and a good trim may help bring it back to usefulness. Get it back to the heart of the question and let caveats be handled in other places. Or, consider breaking it up into several questions that focus on specific things. These are still canonical but they're more refined and honed."
Apr 1, 2021 at 15:56 comment added Braiam Why isn't "4. Breaking these answers into more pointed questions" included in the solutions? It's very cheap from the SO stand point.
Mar 31, 2021 at 22:20 comment added Scratte I understand. I would assume it's easier to find out who played Han Solo somewhere else than asking that on the stack exchange site. But since we're on Star Wars, I think we need more good force and less imperial march ;) Which is what I found in this part of your Answer: "..do your best to help the asker find the part of the answer they need so they can more easily identify which of the myriad solutions in the answer is their solution."
Mar 31, 2021 at 22:19 comment added Catija Staff I think "homework" questions can be excellent questions - on any of the sites but I do know that someone posting their exact homework problem without showing their own effort, where they're stuck or any additional context is definitely an issue - and I appreciate that SO has a close reason specifically for them that tries to guide askers to add more details so that they can actually get the help they need. I do think it's interesting how our highest-voted questions are largely exactly that - low effort sort of thing - for example, I'm sure there's tons of resources about how to get out of Vi.
Mar 31, 2021 at 22:14 comment added Catija Staff On M&TV, they're not going to list all of the actors who appeared in every movie of all time - that's just... a waste of their time because it doesn't fit the format and there's already a platform (IMDb) that does it better than M&TV ever could - and so, if someone asked "Who played Han Solo in Star Wars?" The question will get closed - they're not going to create a canonical question to list all of the actors and their roles in the various Star Wars movies.
Mar 31, 2021 at 22:13 comment added Scratte You're right that it's a different topic. I strongly feel it needs to be addressed at some point soon. "Dumping homework" is a bad term though. One cannot know the origin and it shouldn't matter. If a Question is too broad it will be closed anyway. I don't think I've ever found a solution on Stack Overflow that wasn't posted on a "No research -. Low effort"-post. To me they're the jewels that make the site.
Mar 31, 2021 at 22:12 comment added Catija Staff Now I do spend an hour or two preparing most of the questions I ask on sites - googling, citing sources, etc - that's what I did when I asked my question on SO but I know as a newbie to a lot of programming concepts there are a ton of terms I'm just not going to know off the bat and I don't think we should expect a minimum level of knowledge to ask here. There's also an element I don't know how to equate to SO but that I have a clear example of on M&TV - the concept of "we're not here to duplicate ___ resource" in their case, IMDB. (cont)
Mar 31, 2021 at 22:10 comment added Catija Staff I understand that - and it's a line I struggle to straddle. I've recently talked somewhat about this internally and I thought about it here, too but didn't go there. In general it feels like there's a strong preference for users to put in some effort when asking a question and I generally agree with that. Dumping a homework question or a code issue and telling the people here to fix it is problematic for the site and I want to avoid that. That said, I also don't feel like we should expect people to spend hours researching before posting and if it seems like I do, I should address that.
Mar 31, 2021 at 22:04 comment added Scratte I'm not very comfortable with the entire "The questioner must do their research", which you've repeated multiple times. The problem is that lots of how-to questions doesn't need to include a long list of research nor any attempts. Your post on Arts & Crafts is a good example of a "No research - Low effort" question. It has value nonetheless.
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