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Are canonical dupes a waste of everyone's time?

For what it's worth, I don't think they are. But I also think SE's model doesn't serve the posters you describe very well, and doesn't serve the people trying to help them very well either. And I'm regularly frustrated by each of those things.

I agree that some (many?) canonicals are too broad to be useful on their own without being studied more deeply than the posters we're pointing at them are likely to do (at least at that time). My approach to the situation you describe is to follow the rules as I understand them and close as a duplicate, and where appropriate (probably at least 70% of the time, maybe more) post a comment explaining to the OP how the target applies to their situation — basically what I would have posted as an answer, but with a less in-depth explanation (that's what the target is for), poorer formatting (sadly), and an onerous length restriction.

My reasons for that approach:

  • I see the value in not having a thousand different questions about the same thing with a thousand slightly highly-specific different, slightly-different answers. When I search for a solution to something that isn't covered by SE sites I get very frustrated at finding dozens of versions of the same basic thing with answers too specific to the question to be helpful (to me) before I find a useful solution. So centralizing and curating answers makes sense to me.

  • Without the comment, I often feel we've just slammed the door in the poster's face — that RTFM thing — and I don't like doing that.

I don't know the solution to the problem with the model. I do have some thoughts, but I think this probably isn't the place to go into them as it's a bit tangential to the question (and frankly I think it's highly unlikely SE would entertain them anyway).

Are canonical dupes a waste of everyone's time?

For what it's worth, I don't think they are. But I also think SE's model doesn't serve the posters you describe very well, and doesn't serve the people trying to help them very well either. And I'm regularly frustrated by each of those things.

I agree that some (many?) canonicals are too broad to be useful on their own without being studied more deeply than the posters we're pointing at them are likely to do (at least at that time). My approach to the situation you describe is to follow the rules as I understand them and close as a duplicate, and where appropriate (probably at least 70% of the time, maybe more) post a comment explaining to the OP how the target applies to their situation — basically what I would have posted as an answer, but with a less in-depth explanation (that's what the target is for), poorer formatting (sadly), and an onerous length restriction.

My reasons for that approach:

  • I see the value in not having a thousand different questions about the same thing with a thousand slightly highly-specific different answers. When I search for a solution to something that isn't covered by SE sites I get very frustrated at finding dozens of versions of the same basic thing with answers too specific to the question to be helpful (to me) before I find a useful solution. So centralizing and curating answers makes sense to me.

  • Without the comment, I often feel we've just slammed the door in the poster's face — that RTFM thing — and I don't like doing that.

I don't know the solution to the problem with the model. I do have some thoughts, but I think this probably isn't the place to go into them as it's a bit tangential to the question (and frankly I think it's highly unlikely SE would entertain them anyway).

Are canonical dupes a waste of everyone's time?

For what it's worth, I don't think they are. But I also think SE's model doesn't serve the posters you describe very well, and doesn't serve the people trying to help them very well either. And I'm regularly frustrated by each of those things.

I agree that some (many?) canonicals are too broad to be useful on their own without being studied more deeply than the posters we're pointing at them are likely to do (at least at that time). My approach to the situation you describe is to follow the rules as I understand them and close as a duplicate, and where appropriate (probably at least 70% of the time, maybe more) post a comment explaining to the OP how the target applies to their situation — basically what I would have posted as an answer, but with a less in-depth explanation (that's what the target is for), poorer formatting (sadly), and an onerous length restriction.

My reasons for that approach:

  • I see the value in not having a thousand different questions about the same thing with a thousand highly-specific, slightly-different answers. When I search for a solution to something that isn't covered by SE sites I get very frustrated at finding dozens of versions of the same basic thing with answers too specific to the question to be helpful (to me) before I find a useful solution. So centralizing and curating answers makes sense to me.

  • Without the comment, I often feel we've just slammed the door in the poster's face — that RTFM thing — and I don't like doing that.

I don't know the solution to the problem with the model. I do have some thoughts, but I think this probably isn't the place to go into them as it's a bit tangential to the question (and frankly I think it's highly unlikely SE would entertain them anyway).

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T.J. Crowder
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Are canonical dupes a waste of everyone's time?

For what it's worth, I don't think they are. But I also think SE's model doesn't serve the posters you describe very well, and doesn't serve the people trying to help them very well either. And I'm regularly frustrated by each of those things.

I agree that some (many?) canonicals are too broad to be useful on their own without being studied more deeply than the posters we're pointing at them are likely to do (at least at that time). My approach to the situation you describe is to follow the rules as I understand them and close as a duplicate, and where appropriate (probably at least 70% of the time, maybe more) post a comment explaining to the OP how the target applies to their situation — basically what I would have posted as an answer, but with a less in-depth explanation (that's what the target is for), poorer formatting (sadly), and an onerous length restriction.

My reasons for that approach:

  • I see the value in not having a thousand different questions about the same thing with a thousand slightly highly-specific different answers. When I search for a solution to something that isn't covered by SE sites I get very frustrated at finding dozens of versions of the same basic thing with answers too specific to the question to be helpful (to me) before I find a useful solution. So centralizing and curating answers makes sense to me.

  • Without the comment, I often feel we've just slammed the door in the poster's face — that RTFM thing — and I don't like doing that.

I don't know the solution to the problem with the model. I do have some thoughts, but I think this probably isn't the place to go into them as it's a bit tangential to the question (and frankly I think it's highly unlikely SE would entertain them anyway).