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Oct 5, 2022 at 13:08 comment added Michael Harley I'm not forcing though, this is just me ranting and sharing my experience. I get what you mean, and I don't force him to give me an explanation as well. (I don't confront the other user). All good, it's been days since it happened.
Oct 5, 2022 at 13:06 comment added Dharman Mod @MichaelHarley You can learn, but forcing your readers to give written feedback on your posts and help you improve them is not feasible. If you want to know how to improve your answer, ask on Meta where such discussions should take place.
Oct 5, 2022 at 13:06 comment added Michael Harley I would love to know where my answer is lacking because I answer to help others to the best of my ability. And what I present is my best, if others think it's lacking, why would I not want to know a way to improve it?
Oct 5, 2022 at 13:04 comment added Michael Harley To improve my answer, and learn more? Because their answer isn't better than my answer in my eyes. Why can't I learn more if someone think my answer is lacking?
Oct 5, 2022 at 13:02 comment added Dharman Mod @MichaelHarley Why do you need to know the reason? Why do you care about why someone downvoted it?
Oct 5, 2022 at 13:01 comment added Michael Harley No reason (was given to me), because no comment was added to the answer. At the end of the day, I see no reason was given. I'm not making unfounded claims, just saying and sharing my experience guys, from my own perspective. It would be better to "Add a comment if you want to down-vote" and make this a feature for the stackoverflow.
Oct 4, 2022 at 7:37 comment added E_net4 @MichaelHarley That the reason was not presented to you does not mean that there wasn't an underlying reason for the vote. Better not make unfounded claims.
Oct 2, 2022 at 18:11 comment added Dharman Mod @MichaelHarley How do you know there was no reason?
Oct 2, 2022 at 17:46 comment added Michael Harley @Dharman Some people did it even if the answer is not bad. Some give down vote for no reason. I'm not complaining, I'm just sharing my experience. :)
Oct 1, 2022 at 7:47 comment added Dharman Mod @MichaelHarley I do it too. If I think the available answer is bad, I just downvote it and post my own answer.
Oct 1, 2022 at 4:01 comment added Michael Harley Sometimes I did get downvoted by others, just because they wanted to make their answer have a better score than mine. How do I know? From the downvote date and the new answer date, it is the same, and there are only 2 answers, my answer, and his answer.
Mar 5, 2021 at 7:17 comment added Martin James Every year, there are excessive deaths and injuries resulting from road traffic accidents with fire tenders and ambulances driven at excessive speed, their drivers demanding priority and the like - they must be banned immediately!
Mar 1, 2021 at 8:57 comment added jpmc26 @ATL_DEV Alternatively, logic. Most users have no identifying features on their profile that would allow us to determine their race, gender, or any other physical quality.
Mar 1, 2021 at 8:55 comment added jpmc26 @ATL_DEV "how is he or she supposed to discern your downvote from a racist asshole's downvote?" By being kind to the people casting the downvote. A user can make any number of baseless derogatory assumptions about other users no matter what quality control mechanism we use, but the very values of "welcoming" you claim to be espousing insist they give people the benefit of the doubt instead. If you dispute this, then we must also be allowed to ascribe any negative qualities we want to an asker. Welcoming and kindness cannot be a one-way street.
Feb 27, 2021 at 22:54 comment added VLAZ @adabsurdum the answer is no. However the entire point was that downvotes and upvotes are symmetric in function and capability. If one should be removed, I don't see why the other should remain. Any premise that one of these voting mechanisms is flawed should be levelled at the entire voting system. If it's not, then the argument is flawed or incomplete. I've not seen any reason to believe that the two should be considered separately.
Feb 27, 2021 at 2:10 comment added ATL_DEV @VLAD I'm only addressing the question, not the answers. With answers, votes are meaningful because judge wether the solution is correct or wether it addresses the question.
Feb 27, 2021 at 2:04 comment added VLAZ @ATL_DEV upvoting a poor answer can push the poor practices into other code bases. This can have real life implications if a compromised code is taken from SO because it's upvoted despite actually having issues. I'd even give you a real example - I've had my email fail validation multiple times because it turns out the regex used was from SO. That's real world real harm coming from upvotes. They are also non-essential. Or at least as essential as downvotes, which you claim are non-essential. Any reasoning you can give for removing downvotes should be mirrored for upvotes.
Feb 27, 2021 at 2:00 comment added ATL_DEV @VLAZ It doesn't cast anything negative.
Feb 27, 2021 at 1:56 comment added ATL_DEV @Dharman Wrong! I brought up an example of one instance where it can be abused.
Feb 27, 2021 at 1:52 comment added VLAZ @ATL_DEV I can make the same argument for upvotes. How about we remove them, too?
Feb 27, 2021 at 1:44 comment added Dharman Mod @atl I am not going to discuss US politics. Stack Overflow is not the place for that. If you want to improve the situation then suggest something along the lines of removing user profiles from the site. You are attacking the wrong thing right now.
Feb 27, 2021 at 1:37 comment added ATL_DEV If Stack Overflow claims it wants to be more inclusive of under representation groups, then they've professed it is their problem. That's a cop out. You also assume that everyone has good intentions and claim bigotry is a deeply rooted issue, yet you believe telling people not to do it is sufficient. You're argument for downvoting is is equivalent to "just because a few people kill with guns, doesn't mean we should take away guns from everyone." Downvoting is a non-essential function just as owning a gun is. Given gun has more potential for harm than good, banning them is reasonable.
Feb 27, 2021 at 1:14 comment added Dharman Mod @atl If anyone votes based on user's avatar they don't deserve this privilege. It wouldn't be fair to take it away from everyone if one person abuses it. Better let's teach people how to rate content properly. Even then eradicating racism is not a problem of Stack Overflow. It's a more deeper rooted issue.
Feb 27, 2021 at 0:59 comment added ATL_DEV You don't get my point. I'm merely stating that while your downvote may be well intention, someone else's may not. It is possible to tell a or assume person's skin color from their profile photo or deduced from other information in their profile.
Feb 27, 2021 at 0:51 comment added Dharman Mod @ATL_DEV How could I see the person's skin color? Why would I even care about that? I do not vote on people, I vote on content. The user who posted it is irrelevant. Don't take the downvotes personally.
Feb 26, 2021 at 23:56 history answered DharmanMod CC BY-SA 4.0