Timeline for Is downvoting harmful and should it be removed completely?
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Mar 2, 2021 at 22:53 | comment | added | Kevin B | @peilonrayz every downvote (even each one on the same question) results in a pop up stating: “Please consider adding a comment if you think this post can be improved”. Once you reach 2000 rep, this dialog goes away. That is horrible advice as it more often than not results in negative responses, and frankly I find it as a deterrent to downvoting. It’s designed to make you second guess using the moderation tools. | |
Mar 1, 2021 at 10:25 | comment | added | OrangeDog | @KevinB why does it need deleting? Low quality content is organically buried by downvotes. Only things that are actually harmful need to be deleted (spam, abuse, infringement), and they are deleted very quickly. | |
Mar 1, 2021 at 8:33 | comment | added | Heinzi | @KevinB: And yet, it's still better than all the alternatives out there (looking at you, Microsoft forums). Much better. Your argument that this "site is already destroyed" reminds me of the tag line of the Mutt e-mail client: "All mail clients suck. This one just sucks less." | |
Feb 28, 2021 at 9:10 | comment | added | user5349916 | @ATL_DEV “a badge with the number of objecting SO users” seems to be exactly what downvotes are. How would your badge be different? How would it not suffer from what you think are the disadvantages of downvotes? | |
Feb 27, 2021 at 16:50 | comment | added | ATL_DEV | @DalijaPrasnikar Don't get me wrong. If downvoting was used primarily for questions where it regurgitates a homework or job interview question from a newbie or veteran, I wouldn't mind. A better alternative would be to place a badge on the question with the number of objecting SO users (n SO users don't understand your question, please revise, see xxx for help), or (n SO users suspect this question is already answered elsewhere link). How can this not help? | |
Feb 27, 2021 at 9:28 | comment | added | Dalija Prasnikar Mod | @PeterMortensen Unfortunately, new poor content is coming in faster and faster. I am afraid that closing and deleting alone does not sent proper message back to the OP that something is wrong. People that do want to be constructive members will take that hint more seriously and look into how to improve and others that don't will be prevented to do more harm here more promptly. Until we get to the point that we can successfully deal with poor content coming in on daily basis, we cannot me more lenient with downvoting. Having said that, I am against pilling up downvotes. Even one can suffice. | |
Feb 27, 2021 at 3:32 | comment | added | Peter Mortensen | But a lot of (immediate) downvoting (and thus chock of unsuspecting new users) is completely unnecessary. If a post ends up being deleted anyway, closed anyway before any answers, or never answered anyway, the early downvoting didn't need to happen. For instance, there could be several phases (evaluation for closing and quality) a question passes through (can include several back and forth) before it is subjected to voting. There must be better ways than the simplistic Q&A model after nearly 13 years. | |
Feb 26, 2021 at 21:38 | comment | added | Kevin B | while i mostly agree with this answer, the site is already destroyed. The content that should be deleted via downvoting isn't getting deleted anywhere near the rate at which new such questions are asked. the site actively discourages people from downvoting both with consequences and messaging. | |
Feb 26, 2021 at 21:21 | comment | added | ATL_DEV | You're the one who used the term vet. I didn't. | |
Feb 26, 2021 at 21:06 | history | edited | Robert Harvey | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Feb 26, 2021 at 21:04 | comment | added | Braiam | @ATL_DEV show me an objectively bad and an objectively good question and explain objectively why they are bad or good. I expect you to not include any personal opinion nor experience in the evaluation. | |
Feb 26, 2021 at 21:03 | comment | added | Robert Harvey | I'm not sure why you think that matters. Quality itself is subjective. | |
Feb 26, 2021 at 21:02 | comment | added | ATL_DEV | There's nothing objective about downvoting that determines the quality of a question. | |
Feb 26, 2021 at 20:58 | history | answered | Robert Harvey | CC BY-SA 4.0 |