Timeline for What should we do when one person tries to delete every duplicate?
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Mar 12, 2023 at 20:25 | comment | added | 0___________ | @akrun IMO - questions with answers should be deleted by the mods only. But the community thinks that is a wrong idea. So we need to live with it. | |
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Jul 27, 2022 at 6:24 | comment | added | 41686d6564 | Here we go again. Another example of a question wrongfully closed, then deleted. The OP is asking how to force (i.e., induce) a timeout and the dupe target is about the general use of timeout to prevent deadlocks. You don't need to know regex to see how those are two different questions. And even if it were a duplicate, why delete it without a good reason? Same behavior repeated over and over: downvotes > closure > deletion. This really needs to stop!! | |
Jun 11, 2022 at 14:29 | comment | added | user10917479 | Here is another example that was bugging me for the sake of the asker. It wasn't a bad question but immediately got jumped on by the regex community. The only mistake the OP made was tagging it as regex in the first place. The reality is that it was an R question and if people don't understand the question and language well enough, then they should stay away. | |
Apr 19, 2022 at 1:23 | comment | added | 41686d6564 | Here's a recent prime example of a question that is wrongfully closed with an irrelevant dup-target, and it has accumulated two delete votes already. (Disclaimer: I answered that question) | |
Oct 18, 2021 at 19:19 | history | edited | akrun | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Oct 15, 2021 at 21:09 | history | edited | Cody GrayMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 8, 2021 at 20:14 | comment | added | cigien | I understand that, and it's up to you whether you want to post another Meta about this topic or not. I just think your latest edit is substantive, and shouldn't really be part of a response. Also, as to causing offense to any particular user, it's not as if they won't notice just because you edited a relatively old Meta answer. These changes show up on the active page, where observant users will notice it anyway. | |
Mar 8, 2021 at 20:08 | comment | added | akrun | @cigien I am trying to minimize the issue. I think by posting a different topic linked to this could again flare up somebody's ego (if it is there). | |
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Mar 8, 2021 at 20:05 | comment | added | akrun | @cigien I rolled back to earlier version | |
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Mar 8, 2021 at 20:04 | comment | added | cigien | Your latest edit makes a suggestion that I think should be discussed separately, because there's not really a good way to respond to your latest suggestion when it's part of an answer. You can link to this discussion post if you want. | |
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Feb 25, 2021 at 14:28 | comment | added | Kevin B | @konradrudolph haha no, if anyone knows counter downvoting happens it would be me. I never said it doesn’t and wouldn’t say that. What I do know is that it wasn’t the user in question. | |
Feb 25, 2021 at 9:42 | comment | added | Jeanne Dark | Why shouldn't I assume I know who downvoted my post? | |
Feb 25, 2021 at 9:33 | comment | added | Konrad Rudolph | @KevinB So first you doubt that retaliation downvoting happens. And after counter-evidence is provided you pivot to “yes but there’s nothing wrong with that”? It would be more convincing if you stuck to one argument. At any rate, none of the examples provided by akrun are actually incorrect (or low-quality) answers. It’s very hard to argue that they deserve downvoting. | |
Feb 24, 2021 at 14:09 | comment | added | TylerH | @Scratte No, it sounds like you're stuck in another situation of artificial/self-imposed constraints. The system lets you do something, and there are multiple examples of good questions that follow that practice. But yes, to answer your question, every question should mention enough information to answer it... that's not unique to [regex] questions. | |
Feb 24, 2021 at 0:18 | comment | added | Kevin B | If people would just use the tools made available to them more often and more consistently this whole issue could be avoided. If you find a users actions problematic, as you clearly do here, raise a flag. If you find a post that you think es sun correctly closed, open it. If you find an incorrect answer, downvote it. None of this is new, we have tools to deal with it | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 23:48 | comment | added | akrun | @KevinB Because he tagged it to generic, non-specific dupe. It may get deleted if I don't reopen it while he answers the same questions and reopen more specific dupe tag | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 23:47 | comment | added | Kevin B | I mean... you're reopening questions you answered, there's nothing odd there. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 23:46 | comment | added | Kevin B | @akrun Looks like the system worked | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 23:40 | comment | added | akrun | @KevinB Just from yesterday and today, links are a, b, c There are many, but since you requested, I showed some | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 23:36 | comment | added | Kevin B | so... an accusation of... i dunno, potentially a double standard? or... maybe you not understanding the nuance of the difference between one case and the other, and an accusation of revenge voting? but no posts, so all we can do is take your word for it | |
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Feb 23, 2021 at 22:36 | comment | added | Scratte | @TylerH I think you deliberately misunderstood what I was saying. But what do you suggest for posts that only has the regex tag? They mention all the things that are OK and all the things that are not OK for a solution? How is that any better than adding a language tag? Usually people don't even know what the engine they use can even do. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 22:15 | comment | added | TylerH | @Scratte So... you do agree it's OK to have questions with only the [regex] tag? Got it :-) | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 21:13 | comment | added | Scratte | @TylerH Sometimes curators miss a post. I said "often" because if I said "always" someone would find one that isn't closed. I've been told in SOCVR that not having a language tag is a reason to close a regex post. If you mean the RTFM canonical that includes all languages and their particulars, obviously there's not enough tags to cover that, so it only has the regex tag. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 20:54 | comment | added | TylerH | @Scratte Guidance states they should, not they must. And the system allows it. You even said yourself just now that not adding a language tag "often" gets the question closed (as opposed to "always"). The highest-scoring question on the site (a target for many of the dupes mentioned here) in regex has no other tags, for example. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 19:31 | comment | added | Braiam | @TylerH which is why I am very conservative with using tags just because it's related, but not relevant. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 19:18 | comment | added | Scratte | @TylerH One cannot ask a Question only in regex. The excerpt says " Because regular expressions are not fully standardized, all questions with this tag should also include a tag specifying the applicable programming language or tool." Not adding a language tag often gets the Question closed. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 19:13 | comment | added | TylerH | @akrun Yep, that is an unfortunate flaw in the current tag system. Especially considering one can ask a question only tagged as regex. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 19:10 | comment | added | akrun |
@TylerH It is easier get gold badge in any of the top languages (without actually knowing the language) if one is proficient in regex because the regex code is almost similar except some escape characters
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Feb 23, 2021 at 19:08 | comment | added | TylerH | To your point about tags, it's interesting that the user in this case has a gold badge in several top-level language tags that they probably are not an expert in just because the [regex] tag was used and they are an expert in that one. JS, Python, C#, Java, PHP, and R... that's quite the feat if someone is a SME in each of those at the same time. Some have a lot of overlap, others... not so much. Answers not about regex in C#: 37. Same for JS: 23. PHP: 122. Python: 76. Java: 28. The user wouldn't have a gold badge in any of them without [regex], or even a silver in all but one of them. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 18:26 | comment | added | Broccoli | @KevinB Predictable downvotes on answers on reopened questions has been happening for ages before this question was posted; what they've experienced is not the meta effect. But it's a distraction, I believe normal votes are too subjective to be worth discussing here. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 18:25 | comment | added | akrun | @Broccoli It would be great if he practise what he preaches. But, unfortunately, I didn't see it that way | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 18:24 | comment | added | akrun | @RavinderSingh13 I modified tags only when somebody asks a question in python and have R tag unknowingly. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 18:23 | comment | added | Broccoli | @RavinderSingh13 Yes, I have noticed that, mentioned it here, but users are free to spend their normal votes as they like, even if it's for reasons others would consider questionable. More productive to focus just on the deletions and closures here. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 18:21 | comment | added | RavinderSingh13 | @akrun, Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this one. Here is one more observation, if questions are reopened we may get or may not get downvote is one thing, but another part is many times specific tag removal will also happen(as a bonus) too, even tag is very much relevant for question, I am not sure OP has shared those examples or not but it wouldn't be difficult to find those examples too. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 18:13 | comment | added | Kevin B | eh, that's likely just the meta effect. There's not much good to come from blindly applying blame. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 18:00 | comment | added | akrun | @anubhava I noticed that after a question (you also answered that) got reopened, we both got downvoted. I was thinking that we need approval from him to answer any questions whatsoever | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 17:59 | history | edited | akrun | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Feb 23, 2021 at 17:57 | comment | added | anubhava | I completely agree with these observations. So many of my answers have been removed recently by same 2-3 users. Really astonishing to see so much (mis)use of the privileges. I am starting to wonder if we are still a collaborative platform or a custodian society. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 17:05 | comment | added | akrun | @MisterMiyagi You are right. I didn't look at the links earlier. Anyway, I would say that one of the person in the link did deleted at least 20 or more questions answered by me in the past few month or so. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 17:03 | comment | added | user5349916 | The links in the question already identify a person pretty clearly. Don't see the point in beating around the bush. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 16:52 | history | answered | akrun | CC BY-SA 4.0 |