Timeline for What would be appropriate metrics to measure how well we are dealing with ageing content?
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Feb 24, 2021 at 19:21 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | Not sure I completely understand the proposed metric here. One part seems to be the number of upvotes given per time and in particular a possible slowing down of that voting speed. And we would be dealing well with aging content if we don't see such a slowing down because it means the content is still useful, I guess. This seems to be somewhat similar to Timur Shatlands idea about the votes per visit ratio. I fear that there might be other influences that drive the voting speed up or down, so the metric might suffer from the need for a careful calibration, but it's definitely a start. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 17:18 | comment | added | Makoto | Sorry @PatrickArtner, you're still not making sense. If you look at an answer for each day, then there's a snapshot of the voting score. It makes some sense that if an answer continues to be valuable even long after that it's been asked, then that would be the best we could do without anything intrusive to suggest that this answer is still relevant in the modern era, whereas if an answer was hugely popular 5 years ago but is barely getting any votes now (and has some downvotes now), then that'd be a signal that it hasn't aged well or the info is out of date. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 17:02 | comment | added | Patrick Artner | Any metric based on up/downvotes is skewed because of drive-by-+1/-1. If somethings got 100 votes at some point it is more likely it will akkrue more upvotes due to placement on page 1 of the answers. The 20th answer on page 3 that might be objectively better, won't ever be seen or voted on. So "still gaining votes" is not a good measurement because the discoverability of mayhap better questions on page 2+ is worse then the 5y old accepted / highly voted answer that was good at the time, but is not optimal anymore. SO today caters to/favors young-ish coders that take "a" over "the" solution. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 16:44 | comment | added | Makoto | @PatrickArtner: I don't see what that has to do with any of this. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 16:43 | comment | added | Makoto | @Trilarion: Voting is, again, all we have to say if we think content is good or bad. I still think that votes at time of creation vs votes over time is a useful metric, since it's less ambiguous and there's always one anchor point that can be referenced as a baseline. Maybe bounties could factor in. Dunno. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 16:42 | comment | added | Makoto | @Trilarion: Surveys are annoying, because they are an unnatural interaction with normal content. Any interaction beyond the bare minimum needed to accomplish A Thing™ will always be orders of magnitude slower than just doing the thing, thus obviating people to ignore the survey and diminish its value. Heuristics are probably the best thing we can leverage. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 7:09 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | Maybe surveys could be made less annoying. Their participation could be made optional, their duration could be short and it could be emphasized how important their results are. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 7:07 | comment | added | Patrick Artner | Helped/Helped not: and then there are those at the beginning of their journey into coding that would'nt know a good answer on sight because they want dee coode nowww - served and catered to their special needs. | |
Feb 23, 2021 at 6:55 | comment | added | NoDataDumpNoContribution | I agree that we would have to measure usefulness somehow but often I feel that votes aren't adequate for that. If I really got help for a difficult problem, a single upvote seems not enough to express my gratitude. I'm not sure what to look at exactly. Votes per visits ratios or upvote to downvote ratios? | |
Feb 22, 2021 at 20:41 | history | answered | Makoto | CC BY-SA 4.0 |