Timeline for Is digital design on-topic without HDL code?
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Jul 5, 2021 at 16:29 | comment | added | TylerH | @ShashankVM Perhaps it's because I know Cody somewhat, but when I see him say "reeks", I just read that to mean "smells strongly of" aka "strongly indicates". I don't think Cody has any personal antipathy toward the field of Electrical Engineering whatsoever. The typical negative connotation was either unknown or at least unintended by him, if I had to guess. | |
Jul 5, 2021 at 5:31 | comment | added | user12311164 | @CodyGray your statement "a question asked on SO reeks of EE" shows your attitude towards EE. You would not have your job as a software developer if an EE had not designed the computer you are working on. EEs and not software developers design computers. I find this "reeks" statement of yours offensive, because I am graduating in Electronics Engineering soon. | |
Jul 5, 2021 at 5:15 | comment | added | user12311164 | @CodyGray can you please point to one programming question on Stack Overflow in which the code is not written using IDEs / text editors, but written using a "soldering iron" or "patch cable" or "machine language"? Please don't argue for the sake of arguing. When you are arguing with me, I expect meaningful points or else just shut up. It's gone too far already with the nonsensical arguments such as "patch cables" and what not. | |
Jul 5, 2021 at 5:09 | comment | added | user12311164 | @CodyGray are you trying to say I can ask my patch cable programming questions on Stack Overflow, just because it is programming? | |
Jul 5, 2021 at 5:08 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | "No one"? That's definitely false. Plenty of people do. Some as a hobby, others as part of their job. You use text editors and IDEs, and so do many programmers. That's fine; we each use what works for us, or what we have to use in order to get the job done. But just because you use something, or everyone in your immediate circle uses something, doesn't mean that no one out there uses anything else. There's a whole bunch of programming still done today that doesn't involve HTML or JavaScript or Visual Studio. @ShashankVM | |
Mar 30, 2021 at 11:09 | comment | added | user12311164 | This answer is now outdated @Shog9. No one programs using patch cables and soldering irons anymore. We use text editors and IDEs like Visual Studio. | |
Feb 20, 2021 at 18:06 | comment | added | Chindraba | @ShashankVM Perhaps not the exact book user shog read, yet one in the same subject and level. Try reading the Textbook of Video Game Logic vol I. | |
Feb 20, 2021 at 17:12 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | Yes, I know quite well how FPGAs work. I lead a team that develops and supports a vast array of data-acquisition systems that utilize FPGAs. The article you linked seems to do nothing but support the point that FPGA programming is... programming. For example, these sentences (and the ones following): "it can be configured to be just about any digital circuit you want. The magic here is that nothing physically changes. You simply load a configuration into the FPGA and it starts behaving like the circuit you wanted." Sounds more like programming than circuit design to me, @ShashankVM. | |
Feb 20, 2021 at 17:07 | comment | added | Chindraba | ENIAC was programmed with wires and plug boards. "After the program was figured out on paper, the process of getting the program into ENIAC by manipulating its switches and cables could take days" | |
Feb 20, 2021 at 17:02 | comment | added | Chindraba | @ShashankVM Programming of computer without text. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ENIAC#Programming | |
Feb 20, 2021 at 16:49 | comment | added | Shog9 | I'm afraid this was 30 years ago and I've long ago lost track of it. The book was archaic even then - it referred to microprocessors as something of an extravagance. I'm sure it has not been reprinted, but if I ever do find a copy I'll post photos. | |
Feb 20, 2021 at 16:48 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | It's unclear what you are attempting to prove by linking your own answer, @Shashank. There's little to disagree with there, other than the implications of the final paragraph. Code is indeed a sequence of instructions, and hardware is not. Unless that hardware is a programmable set of logic blocks, i.e., an FPGA. Based on the statement "Hardware control cannot be reprogrammed, software control can be reprogrammed", we must assume that FPGAs are under software control. Either that, or the dichotomy you're trying to draw is a false one. | |
Feb 20, 2021 at 16:38 | comment | added | Shog9 | TBF, also underestimated by some EEs. There's a good argument for more sharing of knowledge all around here! | |
Feb 20, 2021 at 16:35 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | Yes, fair. The asker might reasonably employ a different decision calculus. Most of the time, though, these Meta Q&A are referenced by curators seeking to ascertain consensus on which types of questions they should vote to close. Thinking that a question asked on SO reeks of EE is not a sufficient reason to close it. The amount of overlap between electrical and software engineering is often underestimated by today's web-going generation. | |
Feb 20, 2021 at 16:31 | comment | added | Shog9 | Good link ;-) There's no time limit about just... Going and asking on another site of course. After 60 days if you haven't gotten an answer, probably good time to just delete and ask someone else! | |
Feb 20, 2021 at 16:29 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | Unless they're questions older than 60 days. Then, please don't consider which community they would be better suited for. Consider simply whether they are acceptably on-topic for the site where they're asked. Also, some time ago, I read some good advice about being a bit jealous of your site, and not blithely turning askers away simply because there's another community where their question might also be well received. :-) | |
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Feb 20, 2021 at 16:18 | history | answered | Shog9 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |