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Dec 25, 2020 at 20:23 history edited Douglas Reid CC BY-SA 4.0
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Dec 22, 2020 at 15:34 comment added peterh I dislike this hat thing, but I also do not want to make the christmas of others worser, who maybe like them. So I have simply chosen to not use them. But I am silent about hat topics. I suggest the same to you.
Dec 21, 2020 at 22:03 comment added Douglas Reid @zcoop98 this request was prompted by the obtrusivity of the opt-in/opt-out. A number of comments seem to come at this feature request as if it's an attack on "hats" per se. My view: any tangential distraction should be opt in. That it's annoying to a significant minority I think is conceded by the way it's made optional. Vocal dislike for the proposal outweighs support and I'm okay with that. I've thought about each of the comments and appreciate them. But none of them persuade me that a game many (but not most) find silly and irrelevant shouldn't be opt-in. C'est la vie.
Dec 21, 2020 at 20:30 comment added zcoop98 Also worth raising the fact that this event takes place for less than a single month each year, a span which happens to contain the two least busy days for the site all year (Christmas and New Years). Between the timing and the UI changes, this event is about as unobtrusive as I can imagine making it while still calling it an "event."
Dec 19, 2020 at 8:55 comment added Douglas Reid @CodyGray I hope you don't imagine that because I don't find cheer in the same things as you that I'm cheerless. I'm not sure how irritating you think I find hats, but I'm fairly sure you're over estimating it. I find "hats" irritating enough to click twice to opt out year after year, which is to say mildly. If there was an SO game I was enthusiastic about, but a minority had to opt out I'd be making the same suggestion.
Dec 19, 2020 at 8:48 comment added Douglas Reid Agreed @Alexei Levenkov. I believe, by signing in I also opted in to providing feedback and suggesting changes. That is all I've done here. I don't suggest that SO is beyond it's rights to implement opt-out. Only that opt-in is fair to all. Opt-out favors participants at the expense of non participants.
Dec 19, 2020 at 8:42 comment added Cody Gray Mod I suppose I should not be surprised that someone who finds hats to be this irritating would also not appreciate my attempt at humor. I hope you find some cheer in something this holiday season. Everyone deserves it, especially after this year.
Dec 19, 2020 at 8:33 history edited Douglas Reid CC BY-SA 4.0
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Dec 19, 2020 at 8:30 comment added Alexei Levenkov There is no hats for actual users of the site - the ones who don't have an account and visit the site from search engines. So you opted in to default site's behavior by signing in - disabling hats is customization similar to dark/light theme or left nav bar.
Dec 19, 2020 at 8:30 history edited Douglas Reid CC BY-SA 4.0
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Dec 19, 2020 at 6:49 comment added Douglas Reid @Adrian Mole an excellent question. Firstly, I asked on behalf of myself and the like minded. While my investment here likely exceeds any gain I'd ever realize even if the suggestion were implemented, I care enough about improving the site experience for those who share my point of view that I get something I value for the time and attention spent here. Secondly, I proceed assuming that the status quo is open ended if not challenged. So the collective year-over-year annoyance is potentially infinite. For, me that's worth pointing out that hats isn't universally loved.
Dec 19, 2020 at 5:43 comment added Adrian Mole How many mouse clicks, and how much useful time did you spend posting this question?
Dec 19, 2020 at 5:41 comment added Douglas Reid I think it's relatively unimportant that everyone notice it, compared to the main purpose of of the site which is to ask questions about programming and find answers.
Dec 19, 2020 at 5:38 comment added charlietfl You can't honestly believe that most people would notice the snowflake icon immediately without some sort of visual prompt in the form of a notification message
Dec 19, 2020 at 5:37 comment added Douglas Reid Today I see a snowflake icon, ignoring it takes much less attention than "oh that thing of no interest to me is back, time to opt-out to avoid an even greater stream of irrelevant (to me at least) distractions."
Dec 19, 2020 at 5:33 answer added Cody GrayMod timeline score: 20
Dec 19, 2020 at 5:32 comment added charlietfl How would you know to be able to opt in when the feature becomes available without some sort of banner that would take just as much time, if not more, to review and dismiss? I'm not a big hat fan but this just sounds like sour grapes
Dec 19, 2020 at 5:30 history edited Cody GrayMod
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Dec 19, 2020 at 5:28 comment added Douglas Reid @Scrattle Hats evidently take enough away from enough users that there is an option to not participate.
Dec 19, 2020 at 5:25 comment added Douglas Reid @Scrattle Yep I do indeed mean that switching to opt-in eliminates (at least) two clicks of noise.
Dec 19, 2020 at 5:25 comment added Scratte I suppose what I do not understand is how do the hats take any time away from you? It's not like they're hindering your search for posts, hindering you posting anything nor hindering any other action that you can do here. The hats doesn't even require you to dismiss anything. It's just sitting in the corner with a number on it.
Dec 19, 2020 at 5:19 history edited Douglas Reid CC BY-SA 4.0
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Dec 19, 2020 at 5:11 comment added Douglas Reid Why not waste the time of people who come to an attention-economy driven site mainly to save time? In my view the answer is self-evident. For those for whom it's not, this request is here for anyone to discuss, support or oppose. Have hat it.
Dec 19, 2020 at 5:05 comment added Scratte Do you mean the two clicks you need to do is taking an "iota of useful time"? :O
Dec 19, 2020 at 4:59 comment added Nick is tired "ought to be taxed to those who wish to play the game — not to those who'd rather not." - Why?
Dec 19, 2020 at 4:49 history asked Douglas Reid CC BY-SA 4.0