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Nov 23, 2020 at 6:39 | comment | added | yivi | And since you are worried about that edge case, you need to consider that your proposal of making close-delete-down votes extend the question shelf life will probably expose the question to more downvotes, which might impact users that are close to the question ban threshold. | |
Nov 23, 2020 at 6:39 | comment | added | yivi | Flagging. A mod can undelete and the question will get another week of life before is deleted again. That's enough. Question limit: this is and edge case of and edge case, since it only affects users that are close to the question limit. And in those cases, well, if the original question was roomba-deleted and it's likely reposting it will not go that awesome either, so it's fine that it counts against that limit. | |
Nov 22, 2020 at 22:40 | comment | added | user000001 | @yivi: Flagging will not help, unless the moderator upvotes the post above zero, or locks it. Reposting counts against the user's question limit. | |
Nov 22, 2020 at 19:10 | comment | added | yivi | No @Joshua, it would be worse. To cover for a an edge case we would be making roomba much less effective. Better not change it than change it like this. I’m not particularly convinced about the need for a change. It’s an edge case, and can be managed by the user (flagging, reposting, etc). | |
Nov 22, 2020 at 18:45 | comment | added | Joshua | @yivi: It's a first approximation. Feel free to write a more refined answer. As is, it still would be a better change than not changing it. | |
Nov 22, 2020 at 10:26 | comment | added | user000001 | @BernhardBarker: True, only the final undelete vote matters. My idea was that as long as anybody is still interested in the question, it should not be auto-deleted yet. It doesn't escape the roomba, just borrows some time, which could potentially save it. Regarding the exception for downvotes, I am not against it, just not convinced that it is strictly necessary. Now that people have already voted though, it wouldn't be fair for me to alter the message of this post. | |
Nov 22, 2020 at 9:39 | comment | added | Bernhard Barker | @user000001 I interpret "casting undelete votes" to mean the question is not yet undeleted. | |
Nov 22, 2020 at 9:36 | comment | added | Bernhard Barker | The criteria already includes "has no answers", so answers wouldn't factor into this (unless it was posted and deleted, but that should be rare enough to ignore). "It received no positive interaction for 30 days and someone downvoted it" seems like a good enough reason to delete it, regardless of when the downvote came. I might add a week (but probably not reset it entirely) after a comment or closure / edit to give OP or others a chance to edit / give others a chance to upvote or answer. Partial closure or deletion votes is unlikely to lead to any action that could save the question. | |
Nov 22, 2020 at 7:08 | comment | added | Sagar V | undelete and reopen. These 2 activities should be enough | |
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:57 | comment | added | user000001 | @yivi: Yes that seems simpler | |
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:56 | comment | added | yivi | Yeah, I guess you are right if you see it that way. But with the exception of the vote that actually undeletes a question, all the other undelete votes happen to be in a question where roomba is irrelevant, since the question is already deleted. Using the undelete vote as a reference to reset the timer doesn't seem practical. Simply: if a question was recently undeleted, it could have its "timer" reset, as it is. Not sure I find it entirely practical either. Any question that was recently undeleted should get some action soonish to or go back to torpor. | |
Nov 21, 2020 at 12:50 | comment | added | user000001 |
@yivi: Why the /s ? This is exactly the scenario that happened to OP, his question got undeleted, but then roomda deleted it again within the day.
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Nov 21, 2020 at 12:47 | comment | added | user000001 | @MisterMiyagi: That could make sense, but it's not like there is a real hurry to delete the question either. The vast majority of questions on SO quickly end up in a "dead" state, with few if any interactions after the first hours. | |
Nov 21, 2020 at 11:18 | comment | added | yivi | At least we can agree that users casting undelete votes should reset roomba's timer. Totally. /s | |
Nov 21, 2020 at 11:16 | comment | added | user5349916 | Any reason to include any activity? It seems like only actions indicating positive reactions – e.g. reopen, upvote – should make content eligible for preservation. Having negative actions count seems counterproductive. | |
Nov 21, 2020 at 11:12 | comment | added | yivi | Downvotes, delete and close votes reset the roomba timer? That doesn't seem effective. Neither comments resetting the timer, but that I could at least understand. | |
Nov 21, 2020 at 11:04 | history | answered | user000001 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |