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Oct 28, 2020 at 15:33 vote accept TylerH
Oct 5, 2020 at 14:02 comment added TylerH That's a very good point, @gnat. Reminds me a bit of when automatic vacuum brakes were first installed on trains, and their selling point was "they work, even when they don't".
Oct 5, 2020 at 13:57 comment added gnat ...great thing about approaching automation from this angle is, one can tune and tweak heuristics to their liking anyway they want because cost of mistake is negligible: "incorrect automatic skip" would be not a problem at all (as opposed to incorrect automatic close which would be rather serious issue)
Oct 5, 2020 at 13:42 comment added gnat @TylerH hard to tell, I would expect some heuristics similar to one used by the system to select questions for triage. I don't know its details (and frankly not even interested in knowing) but what I know for sure based on what I observed studying questions in the triage queue, this thing works really well
Oct 5, 2020 at 13:25 comment added TylerH @gnat How does one programmatically account for 'complicated'? 'If >2 LOC exists, skip'?
Oct 3, 2020 at 15:04 comment added gnat have you considered possibility that this user scripted skips (so that complicated cases automatically go under their radar and they manually review only exclusively triage like stuff)
Oct 2, 2020 at 22:10 comment added Shog9 Sure do, @tyler. Granted, they can also unban themselves... But I've certainly avoided that temptation when I found myself banned - it is kind of a good signal that you should change how you review!
Oct 2, 2020 at 22:08 comment added TylerH That highlights an interesting question... do moderators get penalized/auto-suspended for failed audits like normal users do? Assuming they do, I also assume they could just lift their own suspension...
Oct 2, 2020 at 21:58 comment added Shog9 Oh I agree @erik. When Ive done large volumes of closing or deleting, my preference is sequence-detection: if I take the same action on 3 or more consecutive posts, it's time for a short break.
Oct 2, 2020 at 21:55 comment added Erik A Auto-skip audits is... Not so great. But it's necessary, though. Audits don't scale to this number of reviews, since afaik they don't account for the number of reviews/percentage wrong, and audits can be misleading at times. If you review 1500 posts a day, then I assume even if your error rate is far below average, you'd still fail a considerable amount of audits. I think I'm fairly knowledgeable on the rules, but I'd be surprised if I failed less than 1 audit per 1000 reviews.
Oct 2, 2020 at 21:38 comment added Shog9 Nothing I can point to off hand, @code11 - but it's been known and referenced for years. Shape is a fine heuristic, but like all heuristics it isn't a complete substitute for reading and understanding.
Oct 2, 2020 at 21:26 comment added code11 You brought up an interesting heuristic in 'the shape of a question'. Sometimes I find myself over-utilizing this as well (Some questions just look well/poorly put together). Do you know of previous discussion on this? It's fascinating from a UX/UR viewpoint.
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Oct 2, 2020 at 21:15 comment added TylerH Quality of Life improvements via user script are good; like Shog I don't think this is a fully automated process at all... if it were, then yeah, that'd be a big alarm bell.
Oct 2, 2020 at 21:13 comment added Shog9 I've no reason to believe this is a bot; plenty of folks have done variations on review scripts before, going all the way back to Oli's cleanup tool on Ask Ubuntu (which itself inspired aspects of the current review system). There've been loads of discussions on effective / dangerous usage of such things in the past, but... Can't speak to what's been talked about lately.
Oct 2, 2020 at 21:11 comment added Makoto (in a monotone voice) You mean to tell me that the CMs didn't talk about what acceptable usage of bots should be from a moderator account? One is stunned!
Oct 2, 2020 at 21:08 history answered Shog9 CC BY-SA 4.0