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Sep 11, 2020 at 18:00 vote accept filbranden
Sep 11, 2020 at 17:59 comment added D. Ben Knoble @MartinTournoij looks like since ~2019, we get the most vi-related questions...
Sep 10, 2020 at 23:04 comment added Martin Tournoij Amount of questions tagged vi or vim on various sites: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/611134/… – jut FYI.
Sep 10, 2020 at 22:57 comment added Martin Tournoij Generally speaking, you will get better answers at the vi site @pkamb, the site is broader in scope, and also has a much friendlier community IMO.
Sep 10, 2020 at 21:46 comment added pkamb This just shows the inadequacies of the Stack Exchange network model. Why would anyone use that Vi & Vim beta site when there are orders of magnitude more potential answers on SO and SuperUser? Now if there were a single site where you could tag Vi or Vim and "cross post" to everyone on Stack Exchange...
Sep 10, 2020 at 18:17 comment added xdhmoore Points 1-3 kindof assume that SO askers & answerers are or would-be as active on Vi & Vim. If an answerer of SO content including Vim posts now would need to now check 2 sites, that seems less convenient to me.
Sep 10, 2020 at 17:41 comment added D. Ben Knoble @ThomasWeller only because so few read :help which is quite literally explains itself :)
Sep 10, 2020 at 15:30 comment added Billal Begueradj Migrating new questions is Ok, but not old ones
Sep 10, 2020 at 14:43 comment added Thomas Weller 9000 questions about Vi & Vim - that product does not seem to be self-explanatory.
Sep 9, 2020 at 22:00 comment added 10 Rep @Voo Sorry, I don't understand your question.
Sep 9, 2020 at 17:43 comment added reirab @Rich Yes, it does say that the question must be unique to software development, so that might theoretically remove some vi/vim questions from, say, sysadmins, but, realistically, most Vim usage is for programming anyway, so that's probably not going to limit what's on-topic here much. An SU mod also commented on that same meta post saying that all Vim questions were also considered on-topic at SU.
Sep 9, 2020 at 15:49 comment added user513951 I'm disappointed the site was named "Vi & Vim" instead of "Vim & Vi," which rolls off the tongue so much better and also has built-in pun potential for "Vim & Vi-gor" or some such nonsense.
Sep 9, 2020 at 9:24 comment added Rich ...although I should probably note that the accepted and top-voted answer on the meta.se question I linked to above states that the answerer considers all questions about vi/Vim to be on-topic on SO, so it's possible there's some divergence between the official position and the community feeling there. (Just for the record, I'd personally much prefer all future vi questions to be on vi.se.)
Sep 9, 2020 at 9:09 comment added Rich @reirab The Stack Overflow Help was changed in or before 2015 to state that questions about software tools commonly used by programmers are on topic only if they are also unique to software development. Simply being about vi/Vim is no longer considered sufficient.
Sep 9, 2020 at 2:35 comment added NobodyNada Another con: if we decide that Vim questions are suddenly off-topic here, actually enforcing that new policy will take a lot of effort.
Sep 8, 2020 at 19:49 comment added reirab @Lankymart I don't think you have to be programming vi for it to be on topic, just like you don't have to be writing extensions to Visual Studio for questions about it to be on topic. "Software tools commonly used by programmers" are explicitly on-topic for SO, which would certainly include editors and IDEs.
Sep 8, 2020 at 15:08 comment added Zev Spitz I think it would help to clarify the original reason why some editors (vi/vim and emacs) get their own Stack Exchange, while for others (Eclipse, VS Code, Visual Studio) tagging is sufficient. Once that is clear, the benefits of migration might be more obvious. (Not arguing for or against.)
Sep 8, 2020 at 12:28 answer added MachavityMod timeline score: 50
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:39 comment added user692942 @Sinatr I'm simply suggesting that the question has some merit based on my brief look at the vi question queue. Not suggesting people start going through the queue and closing questions or anything, just showing my support for the question.
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:36 comment added Sinatr @Lankymart, right. I don't have time right now to go through vi and sort out which of them are on-topic, but I bet you will find many (that's the point of my comments). Since you have doubts, maybe you will do it?
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:34 comment added user692942 @Sinatr OP covered this - "The Superuser Stack Exchange site is one where some questions about Vim sometimes land, they have been very proactive in having those migrated to Vi & Vim. Unix & Linux also gets them sometimes, although their volume is much lower than on Stack Overflow.".
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:33 comment added Sinatr @Lankymart, it could be many of them are offtopics. But those what aren't should stay on SO. Btw, there is also superuser, what to do with those?
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:29 comment added user692942 @Sinatr nothing you linked there is that conclusive and a lot of hearsay and conjecture. Just viewing the vi question queue it's clear a lot of them are not "programming" questions.
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:20 comment added Lino @Thomas doesn't the question stay on Stack Overflow, but with a banner that it has been migrated? Though the new answers are not mirrored
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:18 comment added Sinatr @Lankymart, see what's related to programming means, there are many on-topic possibilities, c and gcc are just some. It doesn't matter if tag is not a programming language itself. E.g. notepad tag: can be on-topic and off-topic. If question is on-topic on SO it shouldn't be migrated.
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:15 comment added stackprotector Another Con: The migrated questions will be lost, if the beta fails.
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:15 history edited Adriaan CC BY-SA 4.0
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Sep 8, 2020 at 9:14 comment added user692942 @Sinatr (You don't need to it's rhetorical) I'm saying that vi isn't a programming language, so if a vi question is "on-topic" it would need to be about programming vi not just set some variables to change functionality etc. However, if your "programming" vi chances are that's using c or gcc. Just looking at the vi question queue it's clear why this question is being asked.
Sep 8, 2020 at 9:04 comment added Sinatr @Lankymart, I don't quite understand your question.
Sep 8, 2020 at 8:59 comment added user692942 @Sinatr you mean questions about programming vi are on-topic, so c or gcc then? :/
Sep 8, 2020 at 8:58 comment added Sinatr @Lankymart, questions relevant to programming are on-topic, see vi tag.
Sep 8, 2020 at 8:56 comment added user692942 @10Rep Vi and Vim are both text editors (be it quite advanced) don't see how that makes them "on-topic" for Stack Overflow.
Sep 8, 2020 at 8:55 comment added Sinatr The question you mentioned as previous asks about promoting that site via banner shown when looking at questions with vi tags/words. What's your idea? Taking as example SO vs codereview vs .. it is always a problem if user is not aware about correct site. It's a bigger problem and not localized to vi as you can see.
Sep 8, 2020 at 8:43 comment added Voo @10Rep Why duplicate efforts?
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Sep 8, 2020 at 0:05 comment added 10 Rep Vi and Vim are on topic here, so why migrate them in the first place?
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