Timeline for Data validation & background for the Thank You Reaction feature test
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Jul 8, 2020 at 21:20 | comment | added | TylerH | @M-- I'm not sure what your comment is saying. You're arguing neurological/physical addiction is a good thing? | |
Jul 7, 2020 at 17:45 | comment | added | MDoubleDash | @TylerH sugar is addictive. "And it certainly isn't helpful", from whose perspective? For the person in need of help and people who care, no it is not. For people who just want to keep that person around, it is most certainly helpful. medium.com/rta902/… | |
Jul 3, 2020 at 8:06 | comment | added | Autonomous | @YaakovEllis Do you want to elaborate more on how the "thank you" reaction has achieved "a lot of success" in the context of Teams. That may help the community understand its advantages. | |
Jul 1, 2020 at 8:06 | comment | added | Scratte | @YaakovEllis Thank you for replying. I didn't mean to say that I've been directly insulted by anyone. I haven't. I honestly appreciate your post here, even if I'm not fond of the feature. I only meant to convey that I would personally have been more fond of your resources being spent on what I believe to be more fruitful features. Please do not take this post of mine as anything other than that. | |
Jun 30, 2020 at 21:05 | comment | added | 0Valt | @Holger - well, I haven't been around here then to judge (but aware of the issue) - btw, a visible attempt to gather and address feedback in a way that does not defend the decision is there (which would be a good idea to do here as well) That said, I argued before that for a product team of a very large project a notion of "ideation -> research -> prototype -> interview -> rollout -> announce" flow may sound like second nature very hard to fight - I sincerely hope, though, that the community pushback helps change it and that reaching the point when this becomes visible may take years... | |
Jun 30, 2020 at 14:35 | comment | added | TylerH | I agree with this answer; it's a lot of work put into making people feel warm and fuzzy for a moment without addressing the underlying issues. It's a sugar pill for someone who is sick. People may react positively to it, especially in the short term, but that's because it has sugar, not because it's really all that helpful for them. And it certainly isn't helpful. | |
Jun 30, 2020 at 13:38 | comment | added | Holger | @OlegValter development resources are irrelevant to the site owners. We’re talking about people who drop an already working new navigation in favor of an ominous Navigation 3.0, making every spent effort wasted for no good reasons. Such people surely also can afford developing an unneeded “thank you” feature while there’s a long queue of real problems to fix. Why not? | |
Jun 30, 2020 at 13:28 | history | edited | Scratte | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Fixed some badly formed phrasing.
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Jun 30, 2020 at 13:08 | comment | added | 0Valt | ...in the first place. That said, thank you for addressing concerns and especially for taking the time to respond to everything - I know how hard it is to even read through everything. Just trying to stress some points where miscommunication might happen resulting in both sides feeling unheard despite best intentions. | |
Jun 30, 2020 at 13:03 | comment | added | 0Valt | @YaakovEllis - that was meant as a joke (I hope your comment was as well - it is a bit hard to discern in comment format). To wrap up my previous comment as you responded faster than I finished: ..." we cannot accomplish them simultaneously" is precisely on point, I could not agree with you more. And this exactly what is concerning the most - out of all features that could be developed, venues explored or discussed this was the one deemed worthy to be developed however small the actual time/effort or financial cost may be. This is less about prioritizing and more about not taking that route... | |
Jun 30, 2020 at 12:50 | comment | added | Yaakov Ellis StaffMod | @OlegValter thanks for your evangelism. And I understand all about the opportunity cost involved in something like this very well (as right now I am typing here instead of in Visual Studio). That said, I hear your concerns and understand the frustration. I know that many of you might have prioritized items for our roadmap differently than has been done. We will try to continue to balance the different concerns and priorities as best we can moving forward. | |
Jun 30, 2020 at 12:43 | comment | added | 0Valt | @YaakovEllis - I am starting to feel like answer evangelist :) Scratte's concern, as I understand it (seemingly shared by many others and, personally, me) is that every feature needs a certain amount of resources allocated which could have been placed better in the first place. No one (hopefully) argues that other features are not important are not considered important but that everything has a cost. Of your time, of our time, etc... Even if it was developed for Teams, it still needs someone to post announcements, respond to feedback, do the research, etc - all that I am sure you know of.. | |
Jun 30, 2020 at 11:59 | comment | added | Yaakov Ellis StaffMod | The fact that we are working on one feature over another doesn't mean that the other features are not ones that we think are important. Guidance for new users on how the site works is something that is definitely one of our goals to achieve. And this feature would not be intended to absolve users from having to invest the time in learning how to use the site properly. However, while all of these are interrelated, we cannot accomplish them simultaneously. And your points about the potential to make things more complicated are on target: this is definitely something that we want to avoid. | |
Jun 30, 2020 at 11:55 | comment | added | Yaakov Ellis StaffMod | No insult is intended. If it makes you feel better, most of the time invested in this feature was already put in to making this work on SO for Teams, where it has met a lot of success (and we know that the use cases are different for Teams and the Public Platform). | |
Jun 30, 2020 at 11:29 | history | answered | Scratte | CC BY-SA 4.0 |