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We have a way to deal with this with the current system, and it'sit is not by having moderators actively patrolling the corridors of each tag on the site.:

Regular users can (and should) bring matters that deserve moderator attention via flags.

Comments flags, mainly. And if one believes comments flags are not enough, one can raise a custom flag on any post (maybe a post by the user one wants to alert the mods about, but it is possible to flag any post as long as the flag description is detailed enough).

The only way to fix this "systematically" is by community members systematically raising pertinent, accurate flags to bring moderator attention to problematic behaviour.


Regarding voting patterns and closure... that'sthat is trickier. You do not mention any specific example so it's harder to address.

Regular votes: users are free to vote as they see fit (as long as they do not engage in voting fraud or user targeting). No amount of "active moderators in a tag" can change that. If a particular question was voted to a -4 score, it means that at least 4 users considered the question downvote worthy.

Nothing there a moderator can do or should do anything about it. Voting is a user prerogative, and in the end the expression of a personal opinion. Express yours and upvote, if you believe the question is good, well-researched, and useful.

Closure is similar: in the end the community has both close and reopen votes. If you believe a question was incorrectly closed you can vote to reopen. Unless it'sit is a dupe (and the examples you mentioned do not appear to have been closed as dupes), it requires at least three users agreeing that the question deserved closure.

So it'sit is harder to make a case about the need to involve a moderator in these cases. Moderators are (mostly) there to deal with things the community can't work out by itself. And closing and reopening question is something that the community can do effectively.

By voting to reopen the question will be pushed into the reopen queue, you can help the question by editing the question to make it clearer that the question really adjusts to the site's guidelines. If that doesn'tdoes not work and you want additional community scrutiny, you can always bring the matter to meta. The tags and are relevant for these cases.

We have a way to deal with this with the current system, and it's not by having moderators actively patrolling the corridors of each tag on the site.

Regular users can (and should) bring matters that deserve moderator attention via flags.

Comments flags, mainly. And if one believes comments flags are not enough, one can raise a custom flag on any post (maybe a post by the user one wants to alert the mods about, but it is possible to flag any post as long as the flag description is detailed enough).

The only way to fix this "systematically" is by community members systematically raising pertinent, accurate flags to bring moderator attention to problematic behaviour.


Regarding voting patterns and closure... that's trickier. You do not mention any specific example so it's harder to address.

Regular votes: users are free to vote as they see fit (as long as they do not engage in voting fraud or user targeting). No amount of "active moderators in a tag" can change that. If a particular question was voted to a -4 score, it means that at least 4 users considered the question downvote worthy.

Nothing there a moderator can do or should do anything about it. Voting is a user prerogative, and in the end the expression of a personal opinion. Express yours and upvote, if you believe the question is good, well-researched, and useful.

Closure is similar: in the end the community has both close and reopen votes. If you believe a question was incorrectly closed you can vote to reopen. Unless it's a dupe (and the examples you mentioned do not appear to have been closed as dupes), it requires at least three users agreeing that the question deserved closure.

So it's harder to make a case about the need to involve a moderator in these cases. Moderators are (mostly) there to deal with things the community can't work out by itself. And closing and reopening question is something that the community can do effectively.

By voting to reopen the question will be pushed into the reopen queue, you can help the question by editing the question to make it clearer that the question really adjusts to the site's guidelines. If that doesn't work and you want additional community scrutiny, you can always bring the matter to meta. The tags and are relevant for these cases.

We have a way to deal with this with the current system, and it is not by having moderators actively patrolling the corridors of each tag on the site:

Regular users can (and should) bring matters that deserve moderator attention via flags.

Comments flags, mainly. And if one believes comments flags are not enough, one can raise a custom flag on any post (maybe a post by the user one wants to alert the mods about, but it is possible to flag any post as long as the flag description is detailed enough).

The only way to fix this "systematically" is by community members systematically raising pertinent, accurate flags to bring moderator attention to problematic behaviour.


Regarding voting patterns and closure... that is trickier. You do not mention any specific example so it's harder to address.

Regular votes: users are free to vote as they see fit (as long as they do not engage in voting fraud or user targeting). No amount of "active moderators in a tag" can change that. If a particular question was voted to a -4 score, it means that at least 4 users considered the question downvote worthy.

Nothing there a moderator can do or should do anything about it. Voting is a user prerogative, and in the end the expression of a personal opinion. Express yours and upvote, if you believe the question is good, well-researched, and useful.

Closure is similar: in the end the community has both close and reopen votes. If you believe a question was incorrectly closed you can vote to reopen. Unless it is a dupe (and the examples you mentioned do not appear to have been closed as dupes), it requires at least three users agreeing that the question deserved closure.

So it is harder to make a case about the need to involve a moderator in these cases. Moderators are (mostly) there to deal with things the community can't work out by itself. And closing and reopening question is something that the community can do effectively.

By voting to reopen the question will be pushed into the reopen queue, you can help the question by editing the question to make it clearer that the question really adjusts to the site's guidelines. If that does not work and you want additional community scrutiny, you can always bring the matter to meta. The tags and are relevant for these cases.

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We have a way to deal with this with the current system, and it's not by having moderators actively patrolling the corridors of each tag on the site.

Regular users can (and should) bring matters that deserve moderator attention via flags.

Comments flags, mainly. And if one believes comments flags are not enough, one can raise a custom flag on any post (maybe a post by the user one wants to alert the mods about, but it is possible to flag any post as long as the flag description is detailed enough).

The only way to fix this "systematically" is by community members systematically raising pertinent, accurate flags to bring moderator attention to problematic behaviour.


Regarding voting patterns and closure... that's trickier. You do not mention any specific example so it's harder to address.

Regular votes: users are free to vote as they see fit (as long as they do not engage in voting fraud or user targeting). No amount of "active moderators in a tag" can change that. If a particular question was voted to a -4 score, it means that at least 4 users considered the question downvote worthy.

Nothing there a moderator can do or should do anything about it. Voting is a user prerogative, and in the end the expression of a personal opinion. Express yours and upvote, if you believe the question is good, well-researched, and useful.

Closure is similar: in the end the community has both close and reopen votes. If you believe a question was incorrectly closed you can vote to reopen. Unless it's a dupe (and the examples you mentioned do not appear to have been closed as dupes), it requires at least three users agreeing that the question deserved closure.

So it's harder to make a case about the need to involve a moderator in these cases. Moderators are (mostly) there to deal with things the community can't work out by itself. And closing and reopening question is something that the community can do effectively.

By voting to reopen the question will be pushed into the reopen queue, you can help the question by editing the question to make it clearer that the question really adjusts to the site's guidelines. If that doesn't work and you want additional community scrutiny, you can always bring the matter to meta. The tags and are relevant for these cases.

We have a way to deal with this with the current system, and it's not by having moderators actively patrolling the corridors of each tag on the site.

Regular users can (and should) bring matters that deserve moderator attention via flags.

Comments flags, mainly. And if one believes comments flags are not enough, one can raise a custom flag on any post (maybe a post by the user one wants to alert the mods about, but it is possible to flag any post as long as the flag description is detailed enough).

The only way to fix this "systematically" is by community members systematically raising pertinent, accurate flags to bring moderator attention to problematic behaviour.


Regarding voting patterns and closure... that's trickier. You do not mention any specific example so it's harder to address.

Regular votes: users are free to vote as they see fit (as long as they do not engage in voting fraud or user targeting). No amount of "active moderators in a tag" can change that. If a particular question was voted to a -4 score, it means that at least 4 users considered the question downvote worthy.

Nothing there a moderator can do or should do anything about it. Voting is a user prerogative, and in the end the expression of a personal opinion. Express yours and upvote, if you believe the question is good, well-researched, and useful.

Closure is similar: in the end the community has both close and reopen votes. If you believe a question was incorrectly closed you can vote to reopen. Unless it's a dupe (and the examples you mentioned do not appear to have been closed as dupes), it requires at least three users agreeing that the question deserved closure.

So it's harder to make a case about the need to involve a moderator in these cases. Moderators are (mostly) there to deal with things the community can't work out by itself. And closing and reopening question is something that the community can do effectively.

By voting to reopen the question will be pushed into the reopen queue, you can help the question by editing the question to make it clearer that the question really adjusts to the site's guidelines. If that doesn't work and you want additional community scrutiny, you can always bring the matter to meta. The tags and are relevant for these cases.

We have a way to deal with this with the current system, and it's not by having moderators actively patrolling the corridors of each tag on the site.

Regular users can (and should) bring matters that deserve moderator attention via flags.

Comments flags, mainly. And if one believes comments flags are not enough, one can raise a custom flag on any post (maybe a post by the user one wants to alert the mods about, but it is possible to flag any post as long as the flag description is detailed enough).

The only way to fix this "systematically" is by community members systematically raising pertinent, accurate flags to bring moderator attention to problematic behaviour.


Regarding voting patterns and closure... that's trickier. You do not mention any specific example so it's harder to address.

Regular votes: users are free to vote as they see fit (as long as they do not engage in voting fraud or user targeting). No amount of "active moderators in a tag" can change that. If a particular question was voted to a -4 score, it means that at least 4 users considered the question downvote worthy.

Nothing there a moderator can do or should do anything about it. Voting is a user prerogative, and in the end the expression of a personal opinion. Express yours and upvote, if you believe the question is good, well-researched, and useful.

Closure is similar: in the end the community has both close and reopen votes. If you believe a question was incorrectly closed you can vote to reopen. Unless it's a dupe (and the examples you mentioned do not appear to have been closed as dupes), it requires at least three users agreeing that the question deserved closure.

So it's harder to make a case about the need to involve a moderator in these cases. Moderators are (mostly) there to deal with things the community can't work out by itself. And closing and reopening question is something that the community can do effectively.

By voting to reopen the question will be pushed into the reopen queue, you can help the question by editing the question to make it clearer that the question really adjusts to the site's guidelines. If that doesn't work and you want additional community scrutiny, you can always bring the matter to meta. The tags and are relevant for these cases.

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We have a way to deal with this with the current system, and it's not by having moderators actively monitoringpatrolling the corridors of each tag on the site.

Regular users can (and should) bring matters that deserve moderator attention via flags.

Comments flags, mainly. And if one believes comments flags are not enough, one can raise a custom flag on any post (maybe a post by the user one wants to alert the mods about, but it is possible to flag any post as long as the flag description is detailed enough).

The only way to fix this "systematically", is by uscommunity members systematically raiseraising pertinent, accurate flags to bring moderator attention to problematic behaviour.


Regarding voting patterns and closure... that's trickier. You do not mention any specific example so it's harder to address.

Regular votes: users are free to vote as they see fit (as long as they do not engage in voting fraud or user targeting). No amount of "active moderators in a tag" can change that. If a particular question was voted to a -4 score, it means that at least 4 users considered the question downvote worthy.

Nothing there a moderator can do or should do anything about it. Voting is a user prerogative, and in the end the expression of a personal opinion. Express yours and upvote, if you believe the question is good, well-researched, and useful.

Closure is similar: in the end the community has both close and reopen votes. If you believe a question was incorrectly closed you can vote to reopen. Unless it's a dupe (and the examples you mentioned do not appear to have been closed as dupes), it requires at least three users agreeing that the question deserved closure.

So it's harder to make a case about the need to involve a moderator in these cases. Moderators are (mostly) there to deal with things the community can't work out by itself. And closing and reopening question is something that the community can do effectively.

By voting to reopen the question will be pushed into the reopen queue, you can help the question by editing the question to make it clearer that the question really adjusts to the site's guidelines. If that doesn't work and you want additional community scrutiny, you can always bring the matter to meta. The tags and are relevant for these cases.

We have a way to deal with this with the current system, and it's not by having moderators actively monitoring the corridors of each tag on the site.

Regular users can (and should) bring matters that deserve moderator attention via flags.

Comments flags, mainly. And if one believes comments flags are not enough, one can raise a custom flag on any post (maybe a post by the user one wants to alert the mods about, but it is possible to flag any post as long as the flag description is detailed enough).

The only way to fix this "systematically", is by us systematically raise pertinent, accurate flags to bring attention to problematic behaviour.

We have a way to deal with this with the current system, and it's not by having moderators actively patrolling the corridors of each tag on the site.

Regular users can (and should) bring matters that deserve moderator attention via flags.

Comments flags, mainly. And if one believes comments flags are not enough, one can raise a custom flag on any post (maybe a post by the user one wants to alert the mods about, but it is possible to flag any post as long as the flag description is detailed enough).

The only way to fix this "systematically" is by community members systematically raising pertinent, accurate flags to bring moderator attention to problematic behaviour.


Regarding voting patterns and closure... that's trickier. You do not mention any specific example so it's harder to address.

Regular votes: users are free to vote as they see fit (as long as they do not engage in voting fraud or user targeting). No amount of "active moderators in a tag" can change that. If a particular question was voted to a -4 score, it means that at least 4 users considered the question downvote worthy.

Nothing there a moderator can do or should do anything about it. Voting is a user prerogative, and in the end the expression of a personal opinion. Express yours and upvote, if you believe the question is good, well-researched, and useful.

Closure is similar: in the end the community has both close and reopen votes. If you believe a question was incorrectly closed you can vote to reopen. Unless it's a dupe (and the examples you mentioned do not appear to have been closed as dupes), it requires at least three users agreeing that the question deserved closure.

So it's harder to make a case about the need to involve a moderator in these cases. Moderators are (mostly) there to deal with things the community can't work out by itself. And closing and reopening question is something that the community can do effectively.

By voting to reopen the question will be pushed into the reopen queue, you can help the question by editing the question to make it clearer that the question really adjusts to the site's guidelines. If that doesn't work and you want additional community scrutiny, you can always bring the matter to meta. The tags and are relevant for these cases.

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