Timeline for Upcoming Feature: New Question Close Experience
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Apr 1, 2020 at 16:24 | comment | added | Travis J | @VLAZ - You make some really good points. With regards to the duplicate system, one way to improve the duplicate system would be to allow the closure to actually target an answer on the duplicate target, whereby the targetted answer would then be pinned to the top of the answer list as if it were placed there, with votes, comments, etc. This could be done for each target in the duplicate list. However, that topic is for another day I believe, as it would take significant technical work, and is not as related to the refinement of the closure system itself which seems to be the current task. | |
Apr 1, 2020 at 14:18 | comment | added | VLAZ | new user has a hard time earning rep. Sure, rep isn't all that important but it's still put into focus by the gamification. So, people feeling dissatisfied because they cannot get rep are totally justified. Something needs to be done to alleviate this, because otherwise people do come in here and then leave frustrated. At the same time, this has to be balanced to still be (mostly) in line with SO so far. It's a hard task and I can't really give good suggestion but it is something that should be considered. | |
Apr 1, 2020 at 14:18 | comment | added | VLAZ | gamification where closing as a duplicate doesn't reward answerers. However, (re-)posting an answer is very likely to net you some rep. So, (some) askers don't want their questions closed as dupes and (some) answerers don't want to close as dupes. There is nothing in the system that says a duplicate is desirable. Askers are supposed to be content with a solution, and curators with a warm fuzzy feeling. Yet, that's not even the main problem here - the more questions there are, the less possible questions you can ask in the future. Moreover, there are even less possible answers. So a | |
Apr 1, 2020 at 14:18 | comment | added | VLAZ | Most of all, though, I agree that the current model of SO is self-defeating. Many people who come in and have questions are actually asking a duplicate. To be clear that's not bad - an issue might manifest in multiple ways, so we want different pathways to the same solution. Yet, duplicate closures are shunned by many. Some askers actively dislike it and feel it like punishment. I can't really blame them because even well asked questions aren't rewarded if closed as dupes. We want dupes but we don't actually like dupes. This is further reinforced from the opposite direction by the | |
Apr 1, 2020 at 13:54 | comment | added | VLAZ | I agree in principle with what you said. "Off topic" not being off topic - that one bugs me all the time. The "seeks debugging help" is on topic, so the close reason is actually "what you're asking is on topic but not complete". Also, the overly broad close reasons are bad for guiding users how to improve their posts. Having more close reasons that are more granular would be an improvement. | |
Mar 31, 2020 at 16:23 | comment | added | Travis J | @MSalters - I would appreciate it, if you infer that by using quotes in response to me, I actually wrote the text you are citing. I did not state "broadening allowed topics". I believe we need to allow subject experts to weigh in more, we need to allow curators to have a cleaner line of response to questions which need editing or which misunderstand the platform, and we need to allow questions to be posed in such a manner that there are multiple solutions offered or suggested. Please re-read the points made here, I am not suggesting that we include topics covered by other exchanges. | |
Mar 31, 2020 at 13:51 | comment | added | MSalters | "Broadening allowed topics". I'm not too sure about that one. We have the concept of multiple Stack Exchange sites for that, but the closure of Area 51, the firing of the responsible employee, and the focus on just the Big Three sites indicates to me that SE,Inc wants the opposite. It's easier to sell a less-diverse audience. | |
Mar 31, 2020 at 8:10 | comment | added | Scratte | Thank you for bringing up "Off-topic". Overloading this general concept is so confusing. I just can't bring myself to give a user the message that their programming Questions isn't about programming, and I feel it violates "It's critical that you offer accurate and helpful guidance.". | |
Mar 30, 2020 at 23:12 | history | edited | Travis J | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 30, 2020 at 23:08 | comment | added | Travis J | The one thing not addressed here are duplicates, because that system is functioning well in my opinion. | |
Mar 30, 2020 at 23:00 | history | answered | Travis J | CC BY-SA 4.0 |