Timeline for MSDN blog links are broken, what should we do now?
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Apr 5, 2021 at 19:49 | history | edited | Glorfindel | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Apr 5, 2021 at 19:45 | history | edited | Glorfindel | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
broken link fixed
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Apr 5, 2021 at 19:38 | answer | added | Glorfindel | timeline score: 27 | |
Apr 8, 2020 at 9:26 | comment | added | Tobias Knauss | @HereticMonkey: I would like to complain to MS, but it's useless. Some users have already done that on GitHub, but all that MS says is "we added some redirects, but you have to life with the rest being broken". Microsoft, like all big companies, has an efficent way of ignoring the needs of its own users... So either we're stuck with the current situation or we do our best to improve it ourselves and do the stupid work of fixing the links (again). | |
Feb 18, 2020 at 21:39 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | I agree it isn’t our fault, @Heretic, and that Microsoft looks like idiots for repeatedly breaking links. But having answers with dead links does reduce the overall quality and usefulness of our content for future viewers, so if there’s some way we can realistically address this, it makes sense for us to do so. | |
Feb 18, 2020 at 20:55 | comment | added | Heretic Monkey | I guess my point is, why are we doing MS's work for them? Why not leave them broken? Maybe if enough people start complaining to MS about them breaking their links they'll wise up. Maybe not, but in that case, they look like the idiots. | |
Feb 18, 2020 at 20:45 | comment | added | Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight | @HereticMonkey agreed that there's no good way to mass fix it; and given MS's long history of breaking all their links would be only a short term fix. My SOP when finding them is to search on the URL text. 80-90% of the time Google can figure out where MS moved it to, or failing that go to the [wayback machine](archive.org] to find a mirror of the page and then update the individual question/answer with a working link. More broadly, this is why any answer needs to be able to stand on its own without any linked content. | |
Feb 18, 2020 at 20:40 | comment | added | Heretic Monkey | I've never really understood how this is Stack Overflow's problem to fix. MSFT broke the links. If they don't feel that it's worth their time to preserve the links, why should SO? In any case, posts which reference blogs should be useful even without the links, right? Right?!? | |
Feb 18, 2020 at 20:04 | comment | added | Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight | The epicly facepalming bit is that 5 or 10 years back MS started creating (IIRC URL shortened) forward links intending that they could serve as safely hardcodable links into external documentation (ex Visual Studio); and then promptly broke them just like they have with every other URL on their collective sites every few months when someone gets bored and decides to completely redo the site hierarchies. I'm half convinced doing so is an annual review goal for MS PHBs? | |
Feb 18, 2020 at 19:58 | comment | added | BSMP | In the meantime, fixing the links (if possible) as you come across them is valid. You could maybe do a few edits for posts that are highly upvoted and/or get a lot of traffic but you don't want to flood the Active page with these edits unless folks decide it's worth a group effort to fix all of these posts (like a burnination request). | |
Feb 18, 2020 at 19:43 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | Microsoft has it for IIS too, @rene... | |
Feb 18, 2020 at 19:37 | comment | added | rene | @CodyGray I guess MS sys admins are not allowed to install Apache mod_rewrite .... | |
Feb 18, 2020 at 19:18 | comment | added | Travis J | Definitely an issue. Historically MSDN has generated a decent amount of link rot. Sometime you can find them in the web archive (archive.org) and use those links. Other times, you are just out of luck. | |
Feb 18, 2020 at 19:18 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | Sigh. Microsoft has done it again. When will their system administrators learn that cool URIs don’t change? Yes, there are likely thousands of broken links to Microsoft blogs in SO posts, along with hundreds of links to Microsoft Connect (which were broken some time back by the obsoleting of Connect with no archive), and thousands of links to MSDN documentation that does not properly redirect to its new home. What do we do? I don’t know. URL rewriting with a bot may be an option for SE staff, but that requires we can find a stable mapping. Unlikely. | |
Feb 18, 2020 at 19:13 | history | asked | Callum Watkins | CC BY-SA 4.0 |