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Feb 19, 2020 at 19:27 history closed Cerbrus
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Feb 19, 2020 at 8:45 review Close votes
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Feb 18, 2020 at 18:45 comment added Travis J @Trilarion - The features we need less of here are already incorporated through third party anyway. The system was not designed to support user coordination outside of the Q&A format.
Feb 18, 2020 at 14:00 comment added Dalija Prasnikar Mod @deceze Even if it goes into "personal help desk" direction, that would not be enough to call SO social network, nor would adding social networking features add value to such SO.
Feb 18, 2020 at 13:16 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution @Matthew The punchline is the score. ;) Thanks for reading.
Feb 18, 2020 at 13:14 comment added Matthew I read the entire post hoping there would be a punchline somewhere.
Feb 18, 2020 at 12:46 answer added Cerbrus timeline score: 12
Feb 18, 2020 at 12:24 answer added NoDataDumpNoContribution timeline score: -10
Feb 18, 2020 at 11:34 history reopened NoDataDumpNoContribution
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Feb 18, 2020 at 11:34 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution @deceze Even for Wikipedia, which has the knowledge base goal, they think about adding more social elements, so maybe it's not detrimental if done right. But what is wrong with first looking what it would look like and then deciding if it makes sense? What is a one-on-one social model? Maybe classes and tutors? Graduate of the Stack Overflow Java beginners class of 2020.
Feb 18, 2020 at 11:31 history edited NoDataDumpNoContribution CC BY-SA 4.0
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Feb 18, 2020 at 11:28 comment added deceze Mod I think the Wikipedia-like aspect of SO is somewhat gone by now. It's slowly turning into a personalised solve-my-problem site anyway. What's necessary is a clear direction. Is SO "saturated", and the only sensible new content is personalised help, so turning it into a one-on-one social model makes sense? Then we can think about what that might look like. Or should we try to "turn back the tide" and re-focus on the Wikipedia goal? Or perhaps both, with some sort of spinoff or mix?
Feb 18, 2020 at 11:19 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution @DalijaPrasnikar "Turning any repository of knowledge into social platform..." But isn't it already a social platform to some extent? People engage with each other, there are profiles, the content is produced by the users, there is even a community of some sort. That are all characteristics of social platforms.
Feb 18, 2020 at 11:17 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution @TravisJ "I don't think we need more social network features at Stack Overflow." That's fine. I'm more interested in knowing what this social network features would be that we don't need. What do we not need?
Feb 18, 2020 at 11:16 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution Tried to make the question less opinionated by emphasizing that there is no strict right or wrong and the aim is to get a collection of features and how they likely look like if you compare with existing big social networks. That should make the question answerable and anyway every discussion includes opinions to some extent.
Feb 18, 2020 at 11:12 history edited NoDataDumpNoContribution CC BY-SA 4.0
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Feb 17, 2020 at 19:29 comment added Dalija Prasnikar Mod Repository of knowledge <> Social platform. Turning any repository of knowledge into social platform (or just adding more "social platform" appeal) will be detrimental to core goal of creating repository of knowledge.
Feb 17, 2020 at 18:00 comment added Travis J This would fundamentally damage a system which is built to be content oriented. I don't think we need more social network features at Stack Overflow. If anything, we need less.
Feb 17, 2020 at 15:56 history edited Cerbrus
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Feb 17, 2020 at 15:37 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution @Cerbrus I disagree somewhat and think you may be a bit too confident at some places. There might not be a point for you, which is totally fine, but there may be a point for me.
Feb 17, 2020 at 15:21 comment added Cerbrus Social Interaction (SI): Personal messaging system. Con: People would get bothered about questions. SI: Personal questions on meta. Con: Your kid starts walking? We don't care. SI: Extensive user profiles. Con: people start voting based on looks, ethnicity, gender, sexuality, whatever. Every single "Social" feature or functionality you can think of has plenty of reasons why they would be a bad for for a Q&A site. They're different things at their core. There's no point in discussing how it would work, because it wouldn't. It's not what people visit SO for.
Feb 17, 2020 at 15:18 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution @CindyMeister I found a social network that's somewhat similar, but of course not really identical: ResearchGate. It has networks of profiles but questions and answers as well.
Feb 17, 2020 at 15:15 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution @Cerbrus You can only discuss the why (not) if you know the subject. It seems everyone has an implicit idea of what Stack Overflow as a social network would look like, but nobody is able to write it down. Social networks may not be really well defined, but they should share enough characteristics to make some educated guess. If you think that it's impossible that's fine as a frame challenge, but otherwise I would prefer to have a model of what SO as social network would be before comparing the pros and cons of it. Not a discussion for the sake of discussion but for enabling further discussion.
Feb 17, 2020 at 15:02 comment added Cerbrus "Please note that I don't want to discuss what the disadvantages and advantages of Stack Overflow as a social network would be" Then what's the point of this question? "What-ifs" and the like aren't useful, especially if we're forbidden from discussing the "why (not)". This seems to be discussion for the sake of discussion, which ironically is a better fit for a actual social network.
Feb 17, 2020 at 14:45 review Reopen votes
Feb 17, 2020 at 16:24
Feb 17, 2020 at 14:16 history closed DavidPostill
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Feb 17, 2020 at 13:57 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution @CindyMeister But we don't know if it would or wouldn't work. As a frame challenge that should be valid in an answer though, I think. It's not really obvious to me why it wouldn't work and I would not assume that.
Feb 17, 2020 at 13:39 comment added Cindy Meister But if it wouldn't work, then how it might look is immaterial? It doesn't matter how many there are already and whether or not they're successful - that has no bearing on a site/concept that was not designed for the purpose.
Feb 17, 2020 at 13:31 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution @CindyMeister There are quite a number of successful social networks out there, it's not immediately clear to me why one focused on programming Q&A should not work. In this question, I want to concentrate more on how that would look like and less if it would work.
Feb 17, 2020 at 13:15 review Close votes
Feb 17, 2020 at 14:16
Feb 17, 2020 at 13:12 comment added Cindy Meister FWIW I don't think it would be feasible for Stack Overflow (Main) and still be a Q&A site. For Meta, maybe... Personally, I also do not want indiscriminate "social" connection with the "unwashed millions". From experience, most are interested in getting free help. Any social/community relations would be with those with similar interests on the site, which means Meta. And the other parts of my life probably wouldn't interest most people here :-) For the few cases they would, there's chat.
Feb 17, 2020 at 13:04 history edited NoDataDumpNoContribution CC BY-SA 4.0
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Feb 17, 2020 at 13:02 comment added NoDataDumpNoContribution @HereticMonkey Meta Stack Overflow and Stack Overflow are both part of the whole platform. In this question I explicitly want to include Stack Overflow the main site. Will edit it to emphasize this more.
Feb 17, 2020 at 12:49 comment added Heretic Monkey You seems to be conflating Meta Stack Overflow (moderator resignation notices, goodbye threads to former CMs) with Stack Overflow (programming related questions). It would be good to be explicit in where the social aspects are to be introduced in this thought experiment.
Feb 17, 2020 at 12:19 comment added gnat related? "scaling by breaking the social network..."
Feb 17, 2020 at 12:12 history asked NoDataDumpNoContribution CC BY-SA 4.0