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... and given that supporting the Community is a top priority for Stack Overflow, where do you see the network going in the next five years, and what do you think should be done in order to get there?

First of all: if supporting the community is your top priority, I am really worried about things that have lower priority for you. Because the actions regarding that top priority were epic fails for months to come.

What I see is:

  • SE Inc. seems to have given up on the initial idea of a really broad network with many different communities. You only talk about Stack Overflow, and if at all, it is about bringing together "IT related" topics. So: I see that part of the Stack Exchange network to be left out in the rain, to slowly die. If so, just say so. Offer the affected communities a reasonable path forward (out of here), instead of not doing anything.
  • That you try to win back our hearts, without moving one inch towards the community requests. I hear the same "great" words that Sara and David used some months back. Empty promises, which weren't executed on. I don't care about words. I care about actions. And your actions were to throw out a respected moderator, and to then simply sit out the massive drain of moderators and users. To a point where you released the hounds, err, lawyers and of course, to then stop talking at all. And to finally let go of two of your most respected community managers. It is nice that you dare to show up here in person, but it really doesn't matter much. Actions matter.

So, what is my outlook?

  • Very much depends: if you are lucky, you can convince more people to buy your product than you convinced former users to badmouth SE Inc. and its products. Bleak reality: any IT professional I know who is just slightly interested in this place has a bad opinion about it by now, because they observed what happened here over the last months and years.
  • Then maybe, you end up with a growth of user base, revenue, profit.
  • But it is also very much possible that fewer and fewer users will be willing to do that "user moderation" work, and that Stack Overflow turns more and more into a garbage bin, populated mostly by people going "Give me the code for my homework ASAP". And even with millions of such users, you might not be so happy. Because it isn't such people who get consulted when the CTO asks "should we buy SO for Teams for our company?".

Beyond that, simply see what George Stocker has to say.

But yes sure: I intend to stay here, too. To learn what you have to say, and more importantly: to observe your actions in the next months.

I can't tell you what I would need from you to convince me to start providing content here again, or do much moderation work. But I can tell you: probably a lot, but zero of the things that you tried lately.

... and given that supporting the Community is a top priority for Stack Overflow, where do you see the network going in the next five years, and what do you think should be done in order to get there?

First of all: if supporting the community is your top priority, I am really worried about things that have lower priority for you. Because the actions regarding that top priority were epic fails for months to come.

What I see is:

  • SE Inc. seems to have given up on the initial idea of a really broad network with many different communities. You only talk about Stack Overflow, and if at all, it is about bringing together "IT related" topics. So: I see that part of the Stack Exchange network to be left out in the rain, to slowly die. If so, just say so. Offer the affected communities a reasonable path forward (out of here), instead of not doing anything.
  • That you try to win back our hearts, without moving one inch towards the community requests. I hear the same "great" words that Sara and David used some months back. Empty promises, which weren't executed on. I don't care about words. I care about actions. And your actions were to throw out a respected moderator, and to then simply sit out the massive drain of moderators and users. To a point where you released the hounds, err, lawyers and of course, to then stop talking at all. And to finally let go of two of your most respected community managers. It is nice that you dare to show up here in person, but it really doesn't matter much. Actions matter.

So, what is my outlook?

  • Very much depends: if you are lucky, you can convince more people to buy your product than you convinced former users to badmouth SE Inc. and its products. Bleak reality: any IT professional I know who is just slightly interested in this place has a bad opinion about it by now, because they observed what happened here over the last months and years.
  • Then maybe, you end up with a growth of user base, revenue, profit.
  • But it is also very much possible that fewer and fewer users will be willing to do that "user moderation" work, and that Stack Overflow turns more and more into a garbage bin, populated mostly by people going "Give me the code for my homework ASAP". And even with millions of such users, you might not be so happy. Because it isn't such people who get consulted when the CTO asks "should we buy SO for Teams for our company?".

But yes sure: I intend to stay here, too. To learn what you have to say, and more importantly: to observe your actions in the next months.

I can't tell you what I would need from you to convince me to start providing content here again, or do much moderation work. But I can tell you: probably a lot, but zero of the things that you tried lately.

... and given that supporting the Community is a top priority for Stack Overflow, where do you see the network going in the next five years, and what do you think should be done in order to get there?

First of all: if supporting the community is your top priority, I am really worried about things that have lower priority for you. Because the actions regarding that top priority were epic fails for months to come.

What I see is:

  • SE Inc. seems to have given up on the initial idea of a really broad network with many different communities. You only talk about Stack Overflow, and if at all, it is about bringing together "IT related" topics. So: I see that part of the Stack Exchange network to be left out in the rain, to slowly die. If so, just say so. Offer the affected communities a reasonable path forward (out of here), instead of not doing anything.
  • That you try to win back our hearts, without moving one inch towards the community requests. I hear the same "great" words that Sara and David used some months back. Empty promises, which weren't executed on. I don't care about words. I care about actions. And your actions were to throw out a respected moderator, and to then simply sit out the massive drain of moderators and users. To a point where you released the hounds, err, lawyers and of course, to then stop talking at all. And to finally let go of two of your most respected community managers. It is nice that you dare to show up here in person, but it really doesn't matter much. Actions matter.

So, what is my outlook?

  • Very much depends: if you are lucky, you can convince more people to buy your product than you convinced former users to badmouth SE Inc. and its products. Bleak reality: any IT professional I know who is just slightly interested in this place has a bad opinion about it by now, because they observed what happened here over the last months and years.
  • Then maybe, you end up with a growth of user base, revenue, profit.
  • But it is also very much possible that fewer and fewer users will be willing to do that "user moderation" work, and that Stack Overflow turns more and more into a garbage bin, populated mostly by people going "Give me the code for my homework ASAP". And even with millions of such users, you might not be so happy. Because it isn't such people who get consulted when the CTO asks "should we buy SO for Teams for our company?".

Beyond that, simply see what George Stocker has to say.

But yes sure: I intend to stay here, too. To learn what you have to say, and more importantly: to observe your actions in the next months.

I can't tell you what I would need from you to convince me to start providing content here again, or do much moderation work. But I can tell you: probably a lot, but zero of the things that you tried lately.

Active reading. [<http://stackoverflow.com/legal/trademark-guidance> (the last section) <http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Where,-Were-and-We're> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ASAP#Adverb].
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... and given that supporting the Community is a top priority for Stack Overflow, where do you see the network going in the next five years, and what do you think should be done in order to get there?

First of all: if supporting the community is your top priority, I am really worried about things that have lower priority for you. Because the actions regarding that top priority were epic fails for months to come.

What I see is:

  • SE Inc. seems to have given up on the initial idea of a really broad network with many different communities. You only talk about StackoverflowStack Overflow, and if at all, it is about bringing together "IT related" topics. So: I see that part of the stack exchangeStack Exchange network to be left out in the rain, to slowly die. If so, just say so. Offer the affected communities a reasonable path forward (out of here), instead of not doing anything.
  • That you try to win back our hearts, without moving one inch towards the community requests. I hear the same "great" words that Sara and David used some months back. Empty promises, which weren't executed on. I don't care about words. I care about actions. And your actions were to throw out a respected moderator, and to then simply sit out the massive drain of moderators and users. To a point werewhere you released the hounds, err, lawyers and of course, to then stop talking at all. And to finally let go of two of your most respected community managers. It is nice that you dare to show up here in person, but it really doesn't matter much. Actions matter.

So, what is my outlook?

  • Very much depends: if you are lucky, you can convince more people to buy your product than you convinced former users to badmouth SE Inc. and its products. Bleak reality: any IT professional I know who is just slightly interested in this place has a bad opinion about it by now, because they observed what happened here over the last months and years.
  • Then maybe, you end up with a growth of user base, revenue, profit.
  • But it is also very much possible that lessfewer and lessfewer users will be willing to do that "user moderation" work, and that stackoverflowStack Overflow turns more and more into a garbage bin, populated mostly by people going "Give me the code for my homework asap"ASAP". And even with millions of such users, you might not be so happy. Because it ain'tisn't such people who get consulted when the CTO asks "should we buy SO for teamsTeams for our company"company?".

But yes sure: I intend to stay here, too. To learn what you have to say, and more importantly: to observe your actions in the next months.

I can't tell you what I would need from you to convince me to start providing content here again, or do much moderation work. But I can tell you: probably a lot, but zero of the things that you tried lately.

... and given that supporting the Community is a top priority for Stack Overflow, where do you see the network going in the next five years, and what do you think should be done in order to get there?

First of all: if supporting the community is your top priority, I am really worried about things that have lower priority for you. Because the actions regarding that top priority were epic fails for months to come.

What I see is:

  • SE Inc. seems to have given up on the initial idea of a really broad network with many different communities. You only talk about Stackoverflow, and if at all, it is about bringing together "IT related" topics. So: I see that part of the stack exchange network to be left out in the rain, to slowly die. If so, just say so. Offer the affected communities a reasonable path forward (out of here), instead of not doing anything.
  • That you try to win back our hearts, without moving one inch towards the community requests. I hear the same "great" words that Sara and David used some months back. Empty promises, which weren't executed on. I don't care about words. I care about actions. And your actions were to throw out a respected moderator, and to then simply sit out the massive drain of moderators and users. To a point were you released the hounds, err, lawyers and of course, to then stop talking at all. And to finally let go two of your most respected community managers. It is nice that you dare to show up here in person, but it really doesn't matter much. Actions matter.

So, what is my outlook?

  • Very much depends: if you are lucky, you can convince more people to buy your product than you convinced former users to badmouth SE Inc. and its products. Bleak reality: any IT professional I know who is just slightly interested in this place has a bad opinion about it by now, because they observed what happened here over the last months and years.
  • Then maybe, you end up with a growth of user base, revenue, profit.
  • But it is also very much possible that less and less users will be willing to do that "user moderation" work, and that stackoverflow turns more and more into a garbage bin, populated mostly by people going "Give me the code for my homework asap". And even with millions of such users, you might not be so happy. Because it ain't such people who get consulted when the CTO asks "should we buy SO for teams for our company".

But yes sure: I intend to stay here, too. To learn what you have to say, and more importantly: to observe your actions in the next months.

I can't tell you what I would need from you to convince me to start providing content here again, or do much moderation work. But I can tell you: probably a lot, but zero of the things that you tried lately.

... and given that supporting the Community is a top priority for Stack Overflow, where do you see the network going in the next five years, and what do you think should be done in order to get there?

First of all: if supporting the community is your top priority, I am really worried about things that have lower priority for you. Because the actions regarding that top priority were epic fails for months to come.

What I see is:

  • SE Inc. seems to have given up on the initial idea of a really broad network with many different communities. You only talk about Stack Overflow, and if at all, it is about bringing together "IT related" topics. So: I see that part of the Stack Exchange network to be left out in the rain, to slowly die. If so, just say so. Offer the affected communities a reasonable path forward (out of here), instead of not doing anything.
  • That you try to win back our hearts, without moving one inch towards the community requests. I hear the same "great" words that Sara and David used some months back. Empty promises, which weren't executed on. I don't care about words. I care about actions. And your actions were to throw out a respected moderator, and to then simply sit out the massive drain of moderators and users. To a point where you released the hounds, err, lawyers and of course, to then stop talking at all. And to finally let go of two of your most respected community managers. It is nice that you dare to show up here in person, but it really doesn't matter much. Actions matter.

So, what is my outlook?

  • Very much depends: if you are lucky, you can convince more people to buy your product than you convinced former users to badmouth SE Inc. and its products. Bleak reality: any IT professional I know who is just slightly interested in this place has a bad opinion about it by now, because they observed what happened here over the last months and years.
  • Then maybe, you end up with a growth of user base, revenue, profit.
  • But it is also very much possible that fewer and fewer users will be willing to do that "user moderation" work, and that Stack Overflow turns more and more into a garbage bin, populated mostly by people going "Give me the code for my homework ASAP". And even with millions of such users, you might not be so happy. Because it isn't such people who get consulted when the CTO asks "should we buy SO for Teams for our company?".

But yes sure: I intend to stay here, too. To learn what you have to say, and more importantly: to observe your actions in the next months.

I can't tell you what I would need from you to convince me to start providing content here again, or do much moderation work. But I can tell you: probably a lot, but zero of the things that you tried lately.

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... and given that supporting the Community is a top priority for Stack Overflow, where do you see the network going in the next five years, and what do you think should be done in order to get there?

First of all: if supporting the community is your top priority, I am really worried about things that have lower priority for you. Because the actions regarding that top priority were epic fails for months to come.

What I see is:

  • SE Inc. seems to have given up on the initial idea of a really broad network with many different communities. You only talk about Stackoverflow, and if at all, it is about bringing together "IT related" topics. So: I see that part of the stack exchange network to be left out in the rain, to slowly die. If so, just say so. Offer the affected communities a reasonable path forward (out of here), instead of not doing anything.
  • That you try to win back our hearts, without moving one inch towards the community requests. I hear the same "great" words that Sara and David used some months back. Empty promises, which weren't executed on. I don't care about words. I care about actions. And your actions were to throw out a respected moderator, and to then simply sit out the massive drain of moderators and users. To a point were you released the hounds, err, lawyers and of course, to then stop talking at all. And to finally let go two of your most respected community managers. It is nice that you dare to show up here in person, but it really doesn't matter much. Actions matter.

So, what is my outlook?

  • Very much depends: if you are lucky, you can convince more people to buy your product ... than you convinced former users to badmouth SE Inc. and its products. Bleak reality: any IT professional I know who is just slightly interested in this place has a bad opinion about it by now, because they observed what happened here over the last months and years.
  • Then maybe, you end up with a growth of user base, revenue, profit.
  • But it is also very much possible that less and less users will be willing to do that "user moderation" work, and that stackoverflow turns more and more into a garbage bin, populated mostly by people going "Give me the code for my homework asap". So,And even with millions of suchsuch users, you might not be so happy. Because it ain't such people who get consulted when the CTO asks "should we buy SO for teams for our company".

But yes sure: I intend to stay here, too. To learn what you have to say, and more importantly: to observe your actions in the next months.

I can't tell you what I would need from you to convince me to start providing content here again, or do much moderation work. But I can tell you: probably a lot, but zero of the things that you tried lately.

... and given that supporting the Community is a top priority for Stack Overflow, where do you see the network going in the next five years, and what do you think should be done in order to get there?

First of all: if supporting the community is your top priority, I am really worried about things that have lower priority for you. Because the actions regarding that top priority were epic fails for months to come.

What I see is:

  • SE Inc. seems to have given up on the initial idea of a really broad network with many different communities. You only talk about Stackoverflow, and if at all, it is about bringing together "IT related" topics. So: I see that part of the stack exchange network to be left out in the rain, to slowly die.
  • That you try to win back our hearts, without moving one inch towards the community requests. I hear the same "great" words that Sara and David used some months back. Empty promises, which weren't executed on. I don't care about words. I care about actions. And your actions were to throw out a respected moderator, and to then simply sit out the massive drain of moderators and users. And to finally let go two of your most respected community managers. It is nice that you dare to show up here in person, but it really doesn't matter much. Actions matter.

So, what is my outlook?

  • Very much depends: if you are lucky, you can convince more people to buy your product ... than you convinced former users to badmouth SE Inc. and its products. Bleak reality: any IT professional I know who is just slightly interested in this place has a bad opinion about it by now, because they observed what happened here over the last months and years.
  • Then maybe, you end up with a growth of user base, revenue, profit.
  • But it is also very much possible that less and less users will be willing to do that "user moderation" work, and that stackoverflow turns more and more into a garbage bin, populated mostly by people going "Give me the code for my homework asap". So, even with millions of such users, you might not be so happy. Because it ain't such people who get consulted when the CTO asks "should we buy SO for teams for our company".

But yes sure: I intend to stay here, too. To learn what you have to say, and more importantly: to observe your actions in the next months.

I can't tell you what I would need from you to convince me to start providing content here again, or do much moderation work. But I can tell you: probably a lot, but zero of the things that you tried lately.

... and given that supporting the Community is a top priority for Stack Overflow, where do you see the network going in the next five years, and what do you think should be done in order to get there?

First of all: if supporting the community is your top priority, I am really worried about things that have lower priority for you. Because the actions regarding that top priority were epic fails for months to come.

What I see is:

  • SE Inc. seems to have given up on the initial idea of a really broad network with many different communities. You only talk about Stackoverflow, and if at all, it is about bringing together "IT related" topics. So: I see that part of the stack exchange network to be left out in the rain, to slowly die. If so, just say so. Offer the affected communities a reasonable path forward (out of here), instead of not doing anything.
  • That you try to win back our hearts, without moving one inch towards the community requests. I hear the same "great" words that Sara and David used some months back. Empty promises, which weren't executed on. I don't care about words. I care about actions. And your actions were to throw out a respected moderator, and to then simply sit out the massive drain of moderators and users. To a point were you released the hounds, err, lawyers and of course, to then stop talking at all. And to finally let go two of your most respected community managers. It is nice that you dare to show up here in person, but it really doesn't matter much. Actions matter.

So, what is my outlook?

  • Very much depends: if you are lucky, you can convince more people to buy your product than you convinced former users to badmouth SE Inc. and its products. Bleak reality: any IT professional I know who is just slightly interested in this place has a bad opinion about it by now, because they observed what happened here over the last months and years.
  • Then maybe, you end up with a growth of user base, revenue, profit.
  • But it is also very much possible that less and less users will be willing to do that "user moderation" work, and that stackoverflow turns more and more into a garbage bin, populated mostly by people going "Give me the code for my homework asap". And even with millions of such users, you might not be so happy. Because it ain't such people who get consulted when the CTO asks "should we buy SO for teams for our company".

But yes sure: I intend to stay here, too. To learn what you have to say, and more importantly: to observe your actions in the next months.

I can't tell you what I would need from you to convince me to start providing content here again, or do much moderation work. But I can tell you: probably a lot, but zero of the things that you tried lately.

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