Timeline for CEO's 2020 Kickoff Blog: Where do you see Stack Overflow going?
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Jan 27, 2020 at 16:26 | comment | added | Attersson | As an example of valid "why", when I first read about wikipedia, they explained their goal is to collect the entire knowledge of the world. Feasible or not, it was very clear and understandable. On the other hand "writing the script of the future" does not mean anything to me. | |
Jan 27, 2020 at 16:21 | comment | added | Attersson | @Pchandrasekar 2 points you must immediately fix. 1) "for a long time we have said" (etc). This is incorrect attitude because a problem has occurred. Opinions about its severity vary but you must regard it now and take no excuses. The solution is something new that must be done now, since prior behaviours are exactly what have cause the problem. Do not pretend you have always said. 2) A commercial phrase will not help at all. What people expect with your "why" is an explaination in your simplest and most understandable plain words. - The current unfixed attitude will make the new resolve fail. | |
Jan 23, 2020 at 17:39 | comment | added | brasofilo | I'm an avid reader of Meta SO and Meta SE. First time seeing this phrase "script for the future". | |
Jan 22, 2020 at 17:28 | comment | added | Steve Bennett | My take: this "writing the script of the future" was a phrase that Spolsky threw around loosely as a description of what developers supposedly represent in society. The idea of this being some kind of SO mission statement doesn't seem to go back any further than mid 2019, as far as I can tell. I think it'd be fair to say Prashanth has taken a strong liking to the phrase and elevated its importance. (It doesn't make terribly much sense to me personally as a slogan/vision.) | |
Jan 22, 2020 at 9:08 | comment | added | Travis J | "Writing the script of the future" sort of lost out to "Where Developers Learn Share & Build" as a marketing scheme back in 2017. You still see it in some places, but it was mostly a sales pitch when they were trying to increase onboarding prior to Teams. It probably shouldn't be confused for a mission statement or a corporate vision though... those are completely different things. I am sure that Nike's corporate goals aren't to "Just do it", the only thing McDonalds corporates "I'm lovin' it" is profit - to name some famous ones which clearly highlight the difference between slogan and vision | |
Jan 22, 2020 at 7:33 | comment | added | VLAZ | @YaakovEllis tried it without "spolsky" and...I'm getting suggestions related to futuristic screenplays (how to write one, discussions of others, what can we learn from previous ones) and pages on how to rewrite "my future" via some mix of positive thinking and planning, as well as possibly more esoteric means. So...searching for this phrase using an external search engine is about as bad as searching for something using the search on this site. You have to known the precise incantation to conjure forth your result, else you don't get what you want. | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 23:44 | comment | added | Josh Grosso | @RobertHarvey That is my main gripe as well: “writing the script for the future,” independent of whatever context Joel’s talks might imbue it with, is meaningless. | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 23:33 | comment | added | Michael Berry | @YaakovEllis I've done that, I'm getting a lot of talks and blog posts from Joel with that phrase, but nothing directly to do with SO. If it's been a company goal & mission statement for the last 3 years, you must be able to link to it at least somewhere on SO surely? | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 23:18 | comment | added | Peter Mortensen | Inbetween open heart surgery?? | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 23:10 | comment | added | Peter Mortensen | @Robert Harvey: It is probably a play on Joel Spolsky's catch phrase "Developers are writing the script for the future." (he could be quoting someone else, I have to check my references), used in many public presentations in the last 2-3 years. Sample 1 (recorded 2018-10-01). Sample 2 (published on YouTube 2019-01-14). Blog post (2016-12-09). | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 22:53 | comment | added | Robert Harvey | Perhaps "With your help, we're working together to build a library of detailed answers to every question about programming." isn't as inspirational or memorable from a sound-bite perspective, but it does have the virtue of actually meaning something specific and actionable. | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 22:51 | comment | added | Robert Harvey | I have to confess, this is the first time I've ever heard the phrase "writing the script of the future" used in a Stack Exchange context. And I have to say, I'm not a fan, despite the clever play on words. What does it mean, really? Aren't we all "writing the script of the future," in the sense that we are living on this earth and making our mark in whatever way we best can? If you like that phrase, you must certainly love phrases like "strategic initiatives that provide value-added propositions to our stakeholders," a similarly flowery (and equally meaningless) affectation. | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 22:49 | comment | added | Script47 | @YaakovEllis after some Googling, it seems that that phrase didn't seem to make it onto meta or main? Only YT videos and external blogs. Was it not more of a tagline for the public? | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 22:12 | comment | added | Yaakov Ellis StaffMod | For all those who are not familiar with the phrase, help developers to "write the script of/for the future" and its association with Stack Overflow, I suggest that you try Googling "write the script for the future spolsky". This has been a company goal/mission statement for over three years. | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 22:07 | comment | added | Pekka | @PChandrasekar Now you may want to respond that, yes, that is still your "why", of course, but it is not really true any more in any meaningful sense, a new, more elusive "why" seems to have replaced it. This already started happening long before you came on board... even long before the mess around Monica Cellio's termination... but your kicking THE most community-trusted and respected employee who still represented this "why" to the curb with what from the outside can only be interpreted as absolute callousness strongly suggests there is no renewed desire to revive it; quite the contrary. | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 21:51 | comment | added | Pekka |
@PChandrasekar help developers write the script of the future is a good marketing slogan (I mean this without snark) but it is not a good "why" in the above sense. One such "why" for the site used to be "to build the best and most up-to-date library of programming questions and answers on the planet, accessible for free to everyone with Internet and a computer". That's the kind of "why?" that can inspire well-paid professionals to voluntarily give up significant chunks of their time, for free, because they feel they are making a small contribution to making the world a slightly better place
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Jan 21, 2020 at 21:27 | comment | added | canon | @Pchandrasekar "help developers write the script of the future" That doesn't sound familiar. | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 21:27 | comment | added | Script47 | @Pchandrasekar 'for a long time we have said that our mission is to "help developers write the script of the future."' - WHO has EVER said that?! Your own tour states: 'With your help, we're working together to build a library of detailed answers to every question about programming.' Edit, rest of the answer is corporate mumbo jumbo. | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 21:23 | comment | added | Prashanth Chandrasekar StaffMod | Hey George - for a long time we have said that our mission is to "help developers write the script of the future." This continues to be true. Recently we have begun to say our mission is to help developers AND technical workers write the script of the future, reflecting the increasing diversity of knowledge being shared across our network. To accomplish this goal, we need to have a healthy, growing business and community. The blog post I shared today is a good articulation of how we plan to move forward in 2020 to fulfill this mission and support our users, customers, and community. | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 21:10 | comment | added | Peter Mortensen | Related tweet series. | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 21:06 | comment | added | Pekka | @gdoron it looks like they thought they could move on without those employees and the invested users and all the difficult problems of actual community dialogue. The cynical part of my brain (still very small compared to the naive idealistic one, despite how I've sounded on Meta lately) thinks that maybe now they started to realize they need the community and mods after all, for the free moderation work! So now there is an interest in making it look like they care about people here, to keep more mods from bailing | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 21:02 | comment | added | gdoron | @pekka, I totally agree. Their mistake was trying to bake it all into one company and product. They could have let SE Q&A stay as it is, and focus on Jobs or compete with Pluralsight or LinkedIn or 14784 other things. For some reason which I honestly hands down can't understand they decided to move on AND burning everything including their brand and employees. | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 20:53 | comment | added | Pekka |
@gdoron There is absolutely no problem whatsoever in making money and being "for-profit" company. I never said there was. The problem arises when you have massive VC interests pressuring for exponential growth, when that growth conflicts with what used to be your original goal. There is a limit to how much money there is in curating a high-quality library of questions and answers. There is much more money in selling luxury devices and maintaining the surrounding ecosystem like Apple does. It's in the nature of each field
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Jan 21, 2020 at 20:49 | comment | added | gdoron | @Pekka since when did you became a socialist? There is absolutely no problem whatsoever in making money and being "for-profit" company. Not Steve Jobs nor Tim Pool built and operated Apple out of pure altruistic motivations. I just wish Stack Exchange Inc. will understand they actually hurting their business and brand. I'm a strong advocate against the website I devoted thousands of hours for, maybe even more than League of Legends 😉. | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 20:20 | comment | added | Pekka | Prediction: there will not be an honest answer to this. ... not because Prashanth is a liar, necessarily - but because there can only be one main "why", one Telos, and we already know what that is, and neither Prashanth nor anyone else has the power to change this | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 19:42 | comment | added | Robert Harvey | That's a great video. Hopefully everyone who sees your post has the 20 minutes to view it. | |
Jan 21, 2020 at 18:34 | history | answered | George Stocker | CC BY-SA 4.0 |