Timeline for How to deal with the OP editing their question after a duplicate closure to ask a new one?
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Dec 9, 2019 at 20:39 | comment | added | Michael Cheng | It troubles me that someone’s close vote can make them feel bad. If that becomes a more widespread feeling, then contributors/moderation will eventually trend downward. | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 20:36 | comment | added | Michael Cheng | I’ve seen good and bad examples of this behavior. Questions being edited to be good. Questions being completely changed into something different. Both are good outcomes for the site in that we get good questions. However, I don’t know if the latter is good behavior because it’s one of the factors that contributed to me stopping contributing to SO. Rather than mechanical policy, I believe the more important point to address is the human factor. SO is trying its best to reverse the “not welcoming” image, but there’s the reverse side of making sure that contributors keep feeling good. | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 18:00 | history | edited | Wai Ha Lee | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Dec 9, 2019 at 17:53 | comment | added | Alexei Levenkov | @TemaniAfif feeling that your effort to find duplicate is wasted is not acceptable - meta.stackoverflow.com/a/391793/477420. I'm not exactly sure if it is helpful so :) Waiting for an upvoted answer to appear and then closing as duplicate may help with keeping questions from being chameleoned into another one or disappear as soon as it closed as duplicate... but that is not welcome either. | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 17:28 | history | reopened |
Temani Afif Mike M. Alexei Levenkov discussion Users with the discussion badge or a synonym can single-handedly close discussion questions as duplicates and reopen them as needed. |
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Dec 9, 2019 at 15:32 | history | edited | yivi | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Dec 9, 2019 at 15:28 | history | edited | Temani Afif | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Dec 9, 2019 at 14:46 | history | closed |
Robert Longson peterh Dave Stephen RauchMod NoDataDumpNoContribution |
Duplicate of Can I change a question to another question? | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 13:50 | history | edited | Temani Afif | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Dec 9, 2019 at 10:51 | answer | added | Jonas Wilms | timeline score: 4 | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 10:34 | answer | added | ivan_pozdeev | timeline score: -6 | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 10:15 | review | Close votes | |||
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Dec 9, 2019 at 10:10 | history | edited | Temani Afif | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Dec 9, 2019 at 10:08 | comment | added | Tom | @JonasWilms That linked post does not allow users to ask new questions in old posts (or I don't find the paragraph where it does); it talks about fixing posts, which is clearly different and even "If you're unable to improve your existing questions, you'll get the chance to ask one new one 6 months" makes it clear that this isn't supposed to happen. Other meta posts (for example both dupe suggestions), on the other hand, clearly tell that this behaviour is not allowed . | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 10:07 | comment | added | Temani Afif | when you see another such case, then roll the edit back --> it's difficult to see them. I close a lot of question each day and I have to wait until monday for the SEDE to update to find if a question is reopened ... I don't think there is a way to identify such behavior. No one will automatically check the revisions of each question. | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 10:02 | comment | added | Tom | Temani, I would argue that it is still a suitable dupe for the general behaviour, but in this case we're too late for that. The answer already exists and we shouldn't invalidate it. Maybe leave a comment for OP to tell them that this isn't allowed behaviour and when you see another such case, then roll the edit back. | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 10:02 | comment | added | Jonas Wilms | @tom well which facts? the advice we give to banned users does not actively prohibit this behaviour. | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 10:01 | history | edited | Temani Afif | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Dec 9, 2019 at 9:59 | comment | added | Temani Afif | @Turamarth yes closer but I cannot rollback in this case because I will make the answer irrelevant. That one is the opposite issue where the answer become irrelevant due to the edit and the rollback is good for it. | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 9:57 | comment | added | Tom | @JonasWilms Don't twist the facts. Editing a question into a shape doesn't mean to replace it completely, which itself is actually a way to circumvent the question ban, by asking the new question in an old post. | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 9:57 | comment | added | Temani Afif | @JonasWilms it was a good question but a duplicate and since it was a duplicate, maybe the OP found his answer and decided to ask a new one by editing it. This is against how duplicate closure works. If anyone do this it will be a mess. | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 9:56 | comment | added | Jonas Wilms | Also we explicitly recommend banned users to edit their questions in shape .... | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 9:55 | comment | added | Jonas Wilms | Why? You judged the question back then and back then it wasn't a good question. Things have changed. Reopening is a normal part of the process. | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 9:52 | comment | added | Temani Afif | @JonasWilms but it invalidates my legit action and can be a good way to invalidate many closure like mine. | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 9:51 | comment | added | Temani Afif | @Turamarth that question gives an answer to the OP but what about me? what should I do? I think such behavior is not good but I am not the OP. I noticed the behavior. There is also the fact that a closure was involved. | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 9:47 | comment | added | Turamarth | Does this answer your question? Can I Change a question to another question | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 9:47 | comment | added | Jonas Wilms | I mean at the end ... the asker asked a good question, and got a good answer ... | |
Dec 9, 2019 at 9:42 | history | asked | Temani Afif | CC BY-SA 4.0 |