Timeline for Upvotes on questions will now be worth the same as upvotes on answers
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Nov 14, 2019 at 21:42 | comment | added | jpmc26 | "What does this accomplish beyond warm and fuzzies for the question askers who ask a reasonable question?" Warm and fuzzies for people who ask unreasonable questions. Also warm and fuzzies and a sense of self righteousness for the people demanding it. | |
Nov 14, 2019 at 18:37 | comment | added | ayorgo | @Makoto they increase chances of ads being clicked on I guess. And since the no-of-answerers to no-of-askers ratio is pretty small, someone high up the management ladder with a narrow understanding of how the site works may be pushing this to increase the total audience at the expense of quality to make the quarterly report look better or smth. At least this is the only way I can make sense of what's going on. | |
Nov 14, 2019 at 18:22 | comment | added | Makoto | @ayorgo: It's not like the question askers are bringing money in, either. | |
Nov 14, 2019 at 12:07 | comment | added | ayorgo | Do you guys really think that it is us regular (and not so much) users who are the customers for the site? We are equally as much customers for SO as we are for, say, FB. Job advertisers are the real customers here and they demand more conversion in exchange for money. And when money start to play their part everyone else shuts up. All that recent welcomeness bs is only an excuse for the owners' greed for more $. | |
Nov 14, 2019 at 10:37 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | "What does this accomplish beyond warm and fuzzies for the question askers who ask a reasonable question?" Nail meet head | |
Nov 14, 2019 at 9:36 | comment | added | Andrew Morton | A cynical person might say that the intention is to punish the people who have answered many more questions than they have asked and then participated in MSE/MSO to downvote some recent changes. The punishment is that their relative reputation is reduced, e.g., overnight I have gone from page 220 down to page 251 in the user reputation leagues. I have been devalued by more than 10%. But it could plausibly be construed as an unintentional side-effect. | |
Nov 13, 2019 at 21:56 | comment | added | Makoto | I'm growing tired of shouting to the wind. Triviality does not factor in here. I'm talking about value. Value to the customers. If it's the case that Stack Exchange has decided that their definition of "customer" now means "users who just ask questions", then I am wasting my time. If it doesn't, then we get to look at others - like myself - who use the site on a mobile device. | |
Nov 13, 2019 at 21:54 | comment | added | Peter Mortensen | Isn't the implementation trivial in this case? Changing a single configuration value in one place and perhaps forcing/scheduling a recalculation? | |
Nov 13, 2019 at 21:46 | comment | added | Makoto | One last parting note on this @CodyGray - just because it's easy to build doesn't mean it's the most valuable thing to build. I maintain I would have valued a fixing-up of the UX as opposed to this change, which comes across as unnecessary and a bit more like a violation of expectations - something that Denys concisely stated far better than I could, since I know I'm totally incoherent righ tnow. | |
Nov 13, 2019 at 21:44 | comment | added | Makoto | @CodyGray: I also only referenced the profile page as tongue-in-cheek. We've had a responsive site for what, a year or so now? The profile page seems to be lagging behind, and I don't quite understand why that is. No one's sharing why that is. So, when I see things that don't quite tie up loose ends, it's in my natural wont to question the decision. | |
Nov 13, 2019 at 21:43 | comment | added | Makoto | @CodyGray: I skimmed that answer and - in fairness - it was trying to justify this. I don't agree with the justification, because it's basically stating that there were no pearls in answers, and that both questions and answers are equally valuable. This is categorically false. While a good question can spark a great answer, the world only really cares about the great answers, empirically demonstrated by me not answering any questions for the last, say, six months, and only looking for answers to questions (and sometimes failing at that). | |
Nov 13, 2019 at 21:36 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | If you haven’t already, please read the updates to this answer, specifically the bottom non-quoted portion. I linked to it from the question, but it’s important because I think it answers what you’re asking. It explains why this—it was a mistake all along; there are better, more effective solutions to the actual problem; and it’s finally being corrected. It’s really not a warm fuzzies issue. I thought the same thing when I first heard it, until I read my own explanation. (Wait, what?!) Why not now? It takes a lot less development work than building a new profile page. | |
Nov 13, 2019 at 21:25 | comment | added | Makoto | (yeah the same negative impression was given of "low hanging fruit" too) | |
Nov 13, 2019 at 21:23 | comment | added | Bart | @Makoto Agile training. God that brings back memories. But I've also been on the end where gamers complained loudly about "ridiculous updates" we made while not fixing core issues, when in fact we were working hard at both, but the released updates were just easy low hanging fruit we could get out quickly. Aaaanywayyy, I'm going off topic ;) | |
Nov 13, 2019 at 21:20 | comment | added | Makoto | @Bart: I just completed two and a half days of Agile training which is why my mind is still pretty amped up on the whole priority thing. What I remember is, if a feature which wasn't a priority was released before other prioritized features, then that means the team isn't building the right thing. I won't speak to Stack Exchange's priorities since I'm not privy to them. But, one half of me questions who their customers are, and the other half already knows. | |
Nov 13, 2019 at 21:15 | comment | added | Bart | You know, I was on board with that for the longest time. But given the waves of utter drivel I don't even care to answer, I'm kinda okay with rewarding those who still manage to stand out. I don't really mind this change. And as for "features" that have priority, in any decently large organisation there are multiple things in development at all times. Something being released earlier doesn't necessarily imply higher priority. | |
Nov 13, 2019 at 21:12 | comment | added | Makoto | @Bart: I would have valued a responsive profile page higher than reevaluating whether or not we should give questions 10 rep as opposed to 5. The reason is simple: questions are what get people to the site. Answers are what keep people on the site. I would've thought that this was a settled matter by now. | |
Nov 13, 2019 at 21:10 | comment | added | Bart | Why not now? And if it achieves the latter, is that not enough? Not that I have any real answers for you, but you're making it sound kinda good to me. | |
Nov 13, 2019 at 21:06 | comment | added | S.S. Anne | Must... Implement... Bounties... For... Meta... | |
Nov 13, 2019 at 21:05 | history | answered | Makoto | CC BY-SA 4.0 |