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Aug 23, 2019 at 23:05 comment added Modus Tollens @GeorgeStocker No thanks, it's past midnight over here. I just had to vent my frustration for once. I know it's not your fault, I know change is difficult, but I am starting to get annoyed by the continuos, avoidable hassle. I finally want to know where we stand.
Aug 23, 2019 at 23:02 comment added George Stocker Mod Let us continue this discussion in chat.
Aug 23, 2019 at 23:02 comment added Modus Tollens @GeorgeStocker I am not discussing the close reason! Still that answer states questions like that will be closed! A lot of all this frustration will be avoided with clear new guidelines. I guarantee people will follow. But you can't just start moderating differently until they are done.
Aug 23, 2019 at 22:59 comment added George Stocker Mod @modus we don’t have a close reason (on purpose) for lack of research effort. Part of the community wants it; but we even took “minimal understanding” away as a close reason because it was being abused to mean “lack of research effort”. I fear the same thing will happen to “too broad” if people keep using it to close reasons “for lack of research effort.”
Aug 23, 2019 at 22:58 comment added Modus Tollens @GeorgeStocker And please don't tell me it's locked because new guidelines are being discussed because that is exactly what I mean: wait for that process to be finished, then start to moderate based on new guidelines.
Aug 23, 2019 at 22:57 comment added Modus Tollens @GeorgeStocker meta.stackoverflow.com/a/261593/1288408
Aug 23, 2019 at 22:55 comment added George Stocker Mod @modus I linked you to a question from 2011 where this was true; I’ve linked to answers I’ve given to questions from 2008 and 2009 where this was true, and it’s been in every meta stack overflow/exchange answer I’ve given since before and after I was elected in 2013 on this subject. This is not new and it’s something we’ve had to fight off since I joined Stack Overflow in 2008. There’s always been a contingent that wants to close questions due to a lack of research effort and they’ve always been wrong.
Aug 23, 2019 at 22:52 comment added Modus Tollens @GeorgeStocker Yeah, sorry, I am a patient person, but whatever. I know it's not your fault, but can Stack Overflow please get their act together and state clearly what questions are supposed to be, and can elected moderators please wait until this process is finished before starting to moderate on new grounds? I am fed up with this. Stating that it has never been a reason to close a question is plain wrong.
Aug 23, 2019 at 22:48 comment added George Stocker Mod @modus If we can’t agree on the premise of the question that is mentioned in the question itself we can’t really have a productive conversation past that.
Aug 23, 2019 at 22:47 comment added Modus Tollens @GeorgeStocker Yes. It has nothing to do with the requirement to do basic research and trying something by yourself.
Aug 23, 2019 at 22:45 comment added George Stocker Mod @modus did you read the question and the answer?
Aug 23, 2019 at 22:32 comment added Modus Tollens What are you linking to? Where in the linked post is it made clear that "lack of research has never been a reason to close a question on Stack Overflow"? I and others have closed questions for that reason for years without a problem. What has changed? Am I missing something? I am pretty confused.
Aug 23, 2019 at 21:48 comment added Jonas Wilms @georgeStocker hmm, maybe I finally take the time to write a good canonical for "how to turn datastructure x into Y using map/filter/reduce in JS?"
Aug 23, 2019 at 19:14 comment added George Stocker Mod @jonaswilms it is a good question — because just like the duplicates before it, it asks how to do something with new language, so next time we will have even more language to use to figure out if the question is a duplicate. People say the same things 1000 different ways, and without these questions to hone the language people use into something that we can easily identify as a duplicate, it’s hard for us to be immediately and persistently useful. Embrace duplicates; they make the routing system even better.
Aug 23, 2019 at 15:35 comment added Jonas Wilms "It's a good question" No! We get hundreds of these questions of that kind. I once answered these type of questions and often I ended up either explaining all the js fundamentals or applying more requirements than originally specified by the OP. We have to require a minimum effort here, to make sure that the OP will be able to adapt and work with the answers, and that the answers are at all helpful. From the answers given you can see that the only consequence of reopening were a few really bad answers that help no one at the end. I agree with the dupevote though.
Aug 23, 2019 at 14:32 comment added TylerH @GeorgeStocker Can't moderators view deleted comments?
Aug 23, 2019 at 14:31 history edited TylerH CC BY-SA 4.0
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Aug 23, 2019 at 14:16 history edited Cerbrus CC BY-SA 4.0
Meta OP != mainsite OP
Aug 23, 2019 at 14:14 comment added George Stocker Mod @Cerbrus because you said "that comment" and I only referenced your meta comment in my post. I don't know who left the main question comment because it gets deleted when the post gets closed as a duplicate.
Aug 23, 2019 at 14:11 comment added Cerbrus "A duplicate was posted in the comments" That's the comment I was talking about. That comment contained 2 links. Why would you think I was talking about my comment on this meta question?
Aug 23, 2019 at 14:08 history edited Cerbrus CC BY-SA 4.0
I usually like to put screenshots in a quote block, to make it easy to see it's a screenshot, instead of something that's actually written in the answer.
Aug 23, 2019 at 14:06 comment added George Stocker Mod @Cerbrus Not when you first posted it. See my screenshot above.
Aug 23, 2019 at 14:06 history edited George StockerMod CC BY-SA 4.0
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Aug 23, 2019 at 14:04 vote accept customcommander
Aug 23, 2019 at 14:04 comment added customcommander If that question was a duplicate, closing it as such is the right thing to do. Thanks for your clarification. Your answer may not be the most popular but it certainly looks fair to me. Thank you.
Aug 23, 2019 at 13:58 comment added Cerbrus George, that comment contained 2 links, both are required to solve the 2 separate problems described in the questions.
Aug 23, 2019 at 13:53 history answered George StockerMod CC BY-SA 4.0