Timeline for Is the Excel-VBA tag going to be removed soon or not?
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Jan 6, 2020 at 10:25 | answer | added | WhatsThePoint | timeline score: 5 | |
Sep 9, 2019 at 13:46 | comment | added | TylerH | @Andreas I've already shown how to avoid the problem you posited originally; I'm not sure what you're asking now. At least have the "decency" to clearly ask your question. | |
Sep 9, 2019 at 13:03 | comment | added | Andreas | @TylerH what metrics can you sort on stackoverflow.com ? At least have the decency to answer. | |
Aug 22, 2019 at 18:39 | comment | added | Andreas | when you can sort question pages by so many metrics and what metrics would that be, and in what way are they different I respect to this problem? | |
Aug 22, 2019 at 13:56 | comment | added | TylerH | @Andreas No, I understand just fine; you're complaining about the questions list page, but that's a red herring. You need to visit the question before you can do anything (including read the actual question), at which point you should immediately see the date the question was asked. That is why it is not an actual problem, especially when you can sort question pages by so many metrics. | |
Aug 22, 2019 at 13:49 | comment | added | Andreas | @TylerH You still don't understand it... stackoverflow.com is active questions. If that is a question that is asked, answered or modified, then the question will get bumped. THAT IS THE PROBLEM, and that is described in the question here with: which also results in the questions are bumped to the top | |
Aug 22, 2019 at 13:39 | comment | added | TylerH | @Andreas It seems like you're using a mobile app or mobile browser view for that. It's also not the question page view which we've been talking about. Let's try an actual example: i.sstatic.net/eIv8J.png | |
Aug 22, 2019 at 3:34 | comment | added | Andreas | Here we go @Tyler. Is this a new or old question? i.sstatic.net/u6UQK.png no cheating! That is what it looks like. It's on the top of the active page, you see it has been modified, and that is it. | |
Aug 22, 2019 at 3:21 | comment | added | Andreas | You have not read the question have you?! Did you just skip past the question to get to the comments section? It's because of a tag edit that the question got bumped to the top! I did not scroll down two three years of questions and opened a question I opened a question at the top of the active questions. If you delete a tag then all questions with this tag will get the tag removed. Kind of obvious. | |
Aug 21, 2019 at 20:59 | comment | added | TylerH | @Andreas Not bumping questions with tag edits wouldn't make it easier to tell on a question page that the question is old. It sounds like it would just help you cover your forgetfulness/laziness. You literally have to skip over the question's date to get from the title to the body of the question. Also, what automated system? There is no automated system that removes bad tags. It requires users to identify them and then take action. Your final claim reminds me of ex post facto reasoning and wouldn't make sense in any other case, thus doesn't make sense here. | |
Aug 21, 2019 at 20:53 | comment | added | Andreas | Well.. since you ask. Don't bump questions with tag edits. And no I disagree. Let the automated system take care of the removal of tags. There is no need to do that manually. In my opinion there should not be a message in the tag saying not to use the tag, and the thread link should be removed until the system is ready to remove the tag. If it had been a few weeks late then sure, but a year?! | |
Aug 21, 2019 at 20:45 | comment | added | TylerH | @Andreas I almost always look at the date yes, especially if I'm potentially interested in answering the question. "There was nothing indicating it was an old question" Yes, except the date it was asked at the very top of the page. How easy does SO have to make it, eh? I agree with you that the tag just needs to be burninated, but come on. I personally replace the excel-vba tag with excel and/or vba any time I see one, old or new, and you should too. Individuals putting in small persistent efforts is how we get to have nice things. | |
Aug 21, 2019 at 20:42 | comment | added | Andreas | @TylerH do you always look at the dates when you are looking at the home of Stackoverflow? That page shows the active questions in all tags. Open the question read through it, there was no comments to it, nothing indicating it was an old question (I think it was a 2-3 year old). Then I start building a workbook with the example at hand and composing an answer. I scroll up to look at a detail and notice the date. Yes that is frustrating. And for what? A meta post that said something needs to be done and then it just got left hanging like a Brexit. And because someone is looking for a badge. Mmm | |
Aug 21, 2019 at 20:20 | comment | added | TylerH | What is frustrating about reading through a question and answer only to realize they're old? The dates for when it was posted are shown at the top of the page, and if you already know that the question has an answer, then surely you're not upset that you don't have a chance to answer it? | |
Aug 20, 2019 at 23:29 | history | edited | Peter Mortensen | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Active reading.
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Aug 18, 2019 at 21:18 | comment | added | Andreas | @ErikA agree but this is a 5000 rep point user who can do it themselves. | |
Aug 18, 2019 at 20:23 | comment | added | Erik A | I don't visit the review queue a lot, but when I do I routinely reject edits removing the Excel-vba tag or replacing it with the vba tag. Tags will also be added automatically too if the Excel-vba tag gets removed, so these provide no value, and it makes no sense to me to remove a tag now because else it will be removed in the future | |
Aug 18, 2019 at 17:27 | comment | added | Cindy Meister | I had a complaint about similar behavior (from an anonymous user, which meant everything was going into the Review queue) a while back. The consensus was that removing the tag only made sense if the excel and vba tags were not already present. If they were, then no one should be going through to remove just that tag. As I understood it (contrary to a previous comment) removing the tag from existing posts can be done automatically - the only concern being that those other two tags are present... | |
Aug 18, 2019 at 15:16 | comment | added | OrangeDog | Tags cannot be deleted other than by removing every usage of them individually. | |
Aug 18, 2019 at 9:27 | answer | added | Luuklag | timeline score: 8 | |
Aug 18, 2019 at 8:57 | comment | added | Andreas | Yes and that probably means the questions are not bumped, or they are all bumped "now" and in an hour we are back to normal. But with this users actions old questions are always bumped up with the new. | |
Aug 18, 2019 at 8:45 | comment | added | πάντα ῥεῖ | But a "normal" burninaiton process simply includes removing the tags from the question. Anything else I could imagine is that the SO Devs would simply rip it off from the database and run a script to do the removal from the questions. They probably had decided not to do that (yet). | |
Aug 18, 2019 at 8:41 | comment | added | Andreas | Yes and that's what I'm saying. If this user keeps bumping around all those 85000 question it's a big mess in the other tags. For what use? If the tag was suppose to be removed 10-11 months ago then just get on with it so this user will stop messing with the "Active" questions. | |
Aug 18, 2019 at 8:39 | comment | added | πάντα ῥεῖ | 81,579 questions Looks like a big job :-P ... | |
Aug 18, 2019 at 8:35 | comment | added | Andreas | meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/370095/… it's written in all caps when you open the tag. stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/excel-vba | |
Aug 18, 2019 at 8:32 | comment | added | πάντα ῥεῖ | "It has been pending removal more than a year now" Can you point us to the burnination process justifying that the tag should be removed please? | |
Aug 18, 2019 at 8:27 | history | asked | Andreas | CC BY-SA 4.0 |