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I like that it's easier to put questions on hold, the following concern might have solutions other than to rollback.

The close reason might be misleading more frequently

Since the 3 votes could point to different reasons with no majority (nothing new here, just more frequent now), the close reason could be misleading to OP (or any visitors).

Let me illustrate with a simple example (that I saw happen)

  1. OP post unclear question
  2. Someone votes "close as unclear"
  3. Another user votes "Off-topic, needs a MCVE"
  4. OP edits with code that is clearly a duplicate.
  5. Someone votes for a duplicate candidate.
  6. The question gets closed as unclear.

Now, anyone visiting sees "Put on hold as unclear" while the duplicate is buried in the comments.

As mentioned by Shog9 in the comments

when there's no clear majority, the oldest vote wins

But since it's now more frequent to get no majority, would it make more sense to use the newest vote? Since that vote has more chance to take into account the current state of the question.

Or what gnat suggested in 2016:

Exposing close votes in the timeline

Or my own suggestion, listing the close reasons in the "Put on hold" message at the bottom of the question instead of choosing one. Now, there would be a max of 3 reasons, which is reasonable!

It's maybe a good time to revisit these (if the experiment is a success):

enter image description here (source)


Proof

In the moderation tools:

enter image description here

In the question after my duplicate vote:

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I like that it's easier to put questions on hold, the following concern might have solutions other than to rollback.

The close reason might be misleading more frequently

Since the 3 votes could point to different reasons with no majority (nothing new here, just more frequent now), the close reason could be misleading to OP (or any visitors).

Let me illustrate with a simple example (that I saw happen)

  1. OP post unclear question
  2. Someone votes "close as unclear"
  3. Another user votes "Off-topic, needs a MCVE"
  4. OP edits with code that is clearly a duplicate.
  5. Someone votes for a duplicate candidate.
  6. The question gets closed as unclear.

Now, anyone visiting sees "Put on hold as unclear" while the duplicate is buried in the comments.

As mentioned by Shog9 in the comments

when there's no clear majority, the oldest vote wins

But since it's now more frequent to get no majority, would it make more sense to use the newest vote? Since that vote has more chance to take into account the current state of the question.

Or what gnat suggested in 2016:

Exposing close votes in the timeline

Or my own suggestion, listing the close reasons in the "Put on hold" message at the bottom of the question instead of choosing one. Now, there would be a max of 3 reasons, which is reasonable!


Proof

In the moderation tools:

enter image description here

In the question after my duplicate vote:

enter image description here

I like that it's easier to put questions on hold, the following concern might have solutions other than to rollback.

The close reason might be misleading more frequently

Since the 3 votes could point to different reasons with no majority (nothing new here, just more frequent now), the close reason could be misleading to OP (or any visitors).

Let me illustrate with a simple example (that I saw happen)

  1. OP post unclear question
  2. Someone votes "close as unclear"
  3. Another user votes "Off-topic, needs a MCVE"
  4. OP edits with code that is clearly a duplicate.
  5. Someone votes for a duplicate candidate.
  6. The question gets closed as unclear.

Now, anyone visiting sees "Put on hold as unclear" while the duplicate is buried in the comments.

As mentioned by Shog9 in the comments

when there's no clear majority, the oldest vote wins

But since it's now more frequent to get no majority, would it make more sense to use the newest vote? Since that vote has more chance to take into account the current state of the question.

Or what gnat suggested in 2016:

Exposing close votes in the timeline

Or my own suggestion, listing the close reasons in the "Put on hold" message at the bottom of the question instead of choosing one. Now, there would be a max of 3 reasons, which is reasonable!

It's maybe a good time to revisit these (if the experiment is a success):

enter image description here (source)


Proof

In the moderation tools:

enter image description here

In the question after my duplicate vote:

enter image description here

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I like that it's easier to put questions on hold, the following concern might have solutions other than to rollback.

The close reason might be misleading more frequently

Since the 3 votes could point to different reasons with no majority (nothing new here, just more frequent now), the close reason could be misleading to OP (or any visitors).

Let me illustrate with a simple example (that I saw happen)

  1. OP post unclear question
  2. Someone votes "close as unclear"
  3. Another user votes "Off-topic, needs a MCVE"
  4. OP edits with code that is clearly a duplicate.
  5. Someone votes for a duplicate candidate.
  6. The question gets closed as unclear.

Now, anyone visiting sees "Put on hold as unclear" while the duplicate is buried in the comments.

As mentioned by Shog9 in the comments

when there's no clear majority, the oldest vote wins

But since it's now more frequent to get no majority, would it make more sense to use the newest vote? Since that vote has more chance to take into account the current state of the question.

Or what gnat suggested in 2016:

Exposing close votes in the timeline

Or my own suggestion, listing the close reasons in the "Put on hold" message at the bottom of the question instead of choosing one. Now, there would be a max of 3 reasons, which is reasonable!


Proof

In the moderation tools:

enter image description here

In the question after my duplicate vote:

enter image description here

I like that it's easier to put questions on hold, the following concern might have solutions other than to rollback.

The close reason might be misleading

Since the 3 votes could point to different reasons with no majority (nothing new here, just more frequent now), the close reason could be misleading to OP (or any visitors).

Let me illustrate with a simple example (that I saw happen)

  1. OP post unclear question
  2. Someone votes "close as unclear"
  3. Another user votes "Off-topic, needs a MCVE"
  4. OP edits with code that is clearly a duplicate.
  5. Someone votes for a duplicate candidate.
  6. The question gets closed as unclear.

Now, anyone visiting sees "Put on hold as unclear" while the duplicate is buried in the comments.

As mentioned by Shog9 in the comments

when there's no clear majority, the oldest vote wins

But since it's now more frequent to get no majority, would it make more sense to use the newest vote? Since that vote has more chance to take into account the current state of the question.

Or what gnat suggested in 2016:

Exposing close votes in the timeline

Or my own suggestion, listing the close reasons in the "Put on hold" message at the bottom of the question instead of choosing one. Now, there would be a max of 3 reasons, which is reasonable!


Proof

In the moderation tools:

enter image description here

In the question after my duplicate vote:

enter image description here

I like that it's easier to put questions on hold, the following concern might have solutions other than to rollback.

The close reason might be misleading more frequently

Since the 3 votes could point to different reasons with no majority (nothing new here, just more frequent now), the close reason could be misleading to OP (or any visitors).

Let me illustrate with a simple example (that I saw happen)

  1. OP post unclear question
  2. Someone votes "close as unclear"
  3. Another user votes "Off-topic, needs a MCVE"
  4. OP edits with code that is clearly a duplicate.
  5. Someone votes for a duplicate candidate.
  6. The question gets closed as unclear.

Now, anyone visiting sees "Put on hold as unclear" while the duplicate is buried in the comments.

As mentioned by Shog9 in the comments

when there's no clear majority, the oldest vote wins

But since it's now more frequent to get no majority, would it make more sense to use the newest vote? Since that vote has more chance to take into account the current state of the question.

Or what gnat suggested in 2016:

Exposing close votes in the timeline

Or my own suggestion, listing the close reasons in the "Put on hold" message at the bottom of the question instead of choosing one. Now, there would be a max of 3 reasons, which is reasonable!


Proof

In the moderation tools:

enter image description here

In the question after my duplicate vote:

enter image description here

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I like that it's easier to put questions on hold, the following concern might have solutions other than to rollback.

The close reason might be misleading

While I like that it's easier to put questions on hold, one thing I noticed is that the close reason might be misleading to OP (or any visitors) sinceSince the 3 votes could point to different reasons with no majority (nothing new here, just more frequent now), the close reason could be misleading to OP (or any visitors).

Let me illustrate with a simple example (that I saw happen)

  1. OP post unclear question
  2. Someone votes "close as unclear"
  3. Another user votes "Off-topic, needs a MCVE"
  4. OP edits with code that is clearly a duplicate.
  5. Someone votes for a duplicate candidate.
  6. The question gets closed as unclear.

Now, anyone visiting sees "Put on hold as unclear" while the duplicate is buried in the comments.

As mentioned by Shog9 in the comments

when there's no clear majority, the oldest vote wins

But since it's now more frequent to get no majority, would it make more sense to use the newest vote? Since that vote has more chance to take into account the current state of the question.

Or what gnat suggested in 2016:

Exposing close votes in the timeline

Or my own suggestion, listing the close reasons in the "Put on hold" message at the bottom of the question instead of choosing one. Now, there would be a max of 3 reasons, which is reasonable!


Proof

In the moderation tools:

enter image description here

In the question after my duplicate vote:

enter image description here

The close reason might be misleading

While I like that it's easier to put questions on hold, one thing I noticed is that the close reason might be misleading to OP (or any visitors) since the 3 votes could point to different reasons with no majority (nothing new here, just more frequent now).

Let me illustrate with a simple example (that I saw happen)

  1. OP post unclear question
  2. Someone votes "close as unclear"
  3. Another user votes "Off-topic, needs a MCVE"
  4. OP edits with code that is clearly a duplicate.
  5. Someone votes for a duplicate candidate.
  6. The question gets closed as unclear.

Now, anyone visiting sees "Put on hold as unclear" while the duplicate is buried in the comments.

As mentioned by Shog9 in the comments

when there's no clear majority, the oldest vote wins

But since it's now more frequent to get no majority, would it make more sense to use the newest vote? Since that vote has more chance to take into account the current state of the question.

Or what gnat suggested in 2016:

Exposing close votes in the timeline

Or my own suggestion, listing the close reasons in the "Put on hold" message at the bottom of the question instead of choosing one. Now, there would be a max of 3 reasons, which is reasonable!


Proof

In the moderation tools:

enter image description here

In the question after my duplicate vote:

enter image description here

I like that it's easier to put questions on hold, the following concern might have solutions other than to rollback.

The close reason might be misleading

Since the 3 votes could point to different reasons with no majority (nothing new here, just more frequent now), the close reason could be misleading to OP (or any visitors).

Let me illustrate with a simple example (that I saw happen)

  1. OP post unclear question
  2. Someone votes "close as unclear"
  3. Another user votes "Off-topic, needs a MCVE"
  4. OP edits with code that is clearly a duplicate.
  5. Someone votes for a duplicate candidate.
  6. The question gets closed as unclear.

Now, anyone visiting sees "Put on hold as unclear" while the duplicate is buried in the comments.

As mentioned by Shog9 in the comments

when there's no clear majority, the oldest vote wins

But since it's now more frequent to get no majority, would it make more sense to use the newest vote? Since that vote has more chance to take into account the current state of the question.

Or what gnat suggested in 2016:

Exposing close votes in the timeline

Or my own suggestion, listing the close reasons in the "Put on hold" message at the bottom of the question instead of choosing one. Now, there would be a max of 3 reasons, which is reasonable!


Proof

In the moderation tools:

enter image description here

In the question after my duplicate vote:

enter image description here

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