Timeline for Should we change how we handle code only answers?
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Jul 31, 2019 at 13:21 | answer | added | Mark Amery | timeline score: 15 | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 10:16 | answer | added | Cindy Meister | timeline score: 4 | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 7:56 | comment | added | VLAZ | @xdtTransform "many people rush the simple question" this is partly because downvotes don't cost anything on questions, so users are happy to downvote those, whereas it costs 1 of your own rep to downvote an answer. That's enough to give some pause. | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 7:49 | comment | added | xdtTransform | With this scope it's hard. Because as mods you deals with tag you don't know. On my little scale, working on fewer tag, either I see the quality => comment asking for clarification, or I pass. Keeping my downvote only for the thing I can identify as bad. I noticed that they trend to multiply on poor question, many people rush the simple question. During the "ruck", people dive in for upvote. Metrics will be hard for those common case, in the emulation a lot of people miss click the upvote button. | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 7:17 | comment | added | VLAZ | @Kaiido sure, some just visit a question and don't even read but copy/paste code then modify and try to find something that "works". I've personally observed such behaviour. I'm not sure if their preference ultimately matters for SO, though. | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 7:15 | comment | added | Kaiido | Given some comments we receive on answers that contains a lot of explanations, I've got the feeling that a lot of visitors only read codez anyway... | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 7:11 | answer | added | Davy M | timeline score: 16 | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 7:04 | comment | added | VLAZ | I personally hate answers that have code with no explanation for what was wrong or what the solution is. I despise the ones that just change something in OP's code and leave it to the reader to find what the differences are. However, I still don't want these deleted - I recognise the value in them. Still, my biggest concern are that sometimes people come in and post some code that's wrong. It might not deal with OP's problem (instead tackling another perceived one) or occasionally are not even related to OP's question. Simply downvoting those seems too light. | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 7:01 | comment | added | Kaiido | I'm not sure what's this link an example of... An "helpful answer" as the previous sentence leads me to think? There is probably a typo here. (could also be that I completely missed something, it happens often to me...) | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 6:55 | comment | added | user3956566 | @ivarni that's the whole point of the post. :) | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 6:47 | comment | added | ivarni | @YvetteColomb I guess my point is that an answer isn't automatically unuseful just because it has code with no explanation. If it's indicated as being unuseful based on DVs then that metric is just as relevant for every other answer. If you're spesifically talking about downvoted answers with only code (as you specified in a comment but never mentioned in the question) I don't see why the same argument isn't applicable to other downvoted answers. | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 6:37 | comment | added | user3956566 | @ivarni code only answers specifically have no explanation | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 6:13 | comment | added | ivarni | OK, fair enough. But then I don't see why we need to distinguish between code-only downvoted answers and text-only downvoted answers. Or mixed content downvoted answers. | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 6:13 | comment | added | user3956566 | @ivarni no, that's an illogical jump. I'm talking about the stuff that is downvoted, do we keep it here? I'm deliberately distinguishing between the two. | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 6:12 | comment | added | ivarni | So we're going to delete potentially useful content because we're worried people are worried about loosing rep? Isn't this a site for professional and enthusiast programmers? Can't we expect at least some of them to be able to look at working code and figure out why it works? | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 5:50 | comment | added | user3956566 | @ErikA I totally agree - it can cost a lot in rep to downvote them. You can end up losing literally 1000s in rep. | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 5:48 | comment | added | Erik A | The problems I see with just voting is that it costs rep, so low-rep users will be hesitant to do so, and it's irreversible if the user voting doesn't check back. Personally, I'm for deleting through NAA with a comment, because it tells the answerer what's wrong and allows him/her to improve the answer without leaving downvotes from its previous state | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 5:45 | history | edited | user3956566 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Jul 31, 2019 at 5:40 | comment | added | user3956566 | @ivarni it's not something that can be a default goto - keep or delete - I believe, we need domain experts | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 5:39 | comment | added | ivarni | @YvetteColomb You have a much bigger sample size than me on this, I'm just speaking from the experience of having had code-only answers solve the problem I was googling in the past. I still think a good ol' DV on the dubious ones are better than potentially throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Note though, that these days I'm mainly interacting with main from the perspective of someone trying to solve something and not looking at new, active questions so I might be biased. | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 5:31 | comment | added | Romil Patel | I think people who have a silver, gold tag for one of the tags included in the question may decide (as they know the language well) for the question who has been already answered and a new user gives code only answer. | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 5:30 | comment | added | user3956566 | @ivarni I come across so many of them in my modding duties. Due to flags, comments etc. Some of them have dubious value - others do answer the question. I'm wondering if we do have an onus on keeping the first on the site? | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 5:29 | comment | added | ivarni | I'm personally more in favor of voting on wether they are useful or not. A code only answer can be useful or it can't and either way it's very often more useful than no answer so I'm not sure it's beneficial to make absolute rules about it. If it's just crap then we have LQ and if it isn't just crap then what do we gain from deleting it? | |
Jul 31, 2019 at 5:22 | history | asked | user3956566 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |