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Stack Overflow Employees have panic attacks and nightmares when they know they will need to post something to Meta. They are real human beings that are affected by the way people speak to them. This is outside of the CM team, who have been heroes and who I constantly see abused here.

 

I can’t, with good conscience, force anyone to participate in a venue that causes that type of psychological damage at work. The CMs feel this is something that can be remedied, and I believe them. However, until then, I can’t sleep at night knowing that we are forcing people to participate here as part of their jobs.

 

We're removing Hot on Meta as I don't want to send new people to a place where people have these experiences. Full stop.

Stack Overflow Employees have panic attacks and nightmares when they know they will need to post something to Meta. They are real human beings that are affected by the way people speak to them. This is outside of the CM team, who have been heroes and who I constantly see abused here.

 

I can’t, with good conscience, force anyone to participate in a venue that causes that type of psychological damage at work. The CMs feel this is something that can be remedied, and I believe them. However, until then, I can’t sleep at night knowing that we are forcing people to participate here as part of their jobs.

 

We're removing Hot on Meta as I don't want to send new people to a place where people have these experiences. Full stop.

Stack Overflow Employees have panic attacks and nightmares when they know they will need to post something to Meta. They are real human beings that are affected by the way people speak to them. This is outside of the CM team, who have been heroes and who I constantly see abused here.

I can’t, with good conscience, force anyone to participate in a venue that causes that type of psychological damage at work. The CMs feel this is something that can be remedied, and I believe them. However, until then, I can’t sleep at night knowing that we are forcing people to participate here as part of their jobs.

We're removing Hot on Meta as I don't want to send new people to a place where people have these experiences. Full stop.

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It is quite evident right now. The Stack Exchange Network currently had its own share of problems lately. The company... I don't know what the situation is now, but we all know about the "massive"massive lay-off that happened some time ago - financial problems, workforce reduction and the such... Has the emergency now ended? I am not sure. "Be nice" problems and public relation ones, Twitter-related incidents, user e-mail disclosures, workers getting personal threats emails even... one incident after another... And they kept coming. Again. And Again. And Again. I don't envy you the slightest - it must have been harsh times. And I work with SharePoint.

And while the staff had its bad time... the community didn't had much more fun. With each new "incident", with each new "meta drama" the userbase (or at least part of them) felt more and more abandoned, betrayed... rejected. Called "leonizing users"leonizing users, told that "they should be ashamed of themselves as human beings"they should be ashamed of themselves as human beings... most of them now lay broken, and any trust they had in what they were doing was lost in the continuous fighting. Some left, some adapted, some no longer care and still exist only by inertia, some started throwing insults at insults... "dirty people"dirty people they called the staff, "hope some of you finally lose their work so that someone better may take your place"hope some of you finally lose their work so that someone better may take your place they said... And The Perfect Circle continued.

Edit: A little clarification since Mark asked for it in a comment on this post - none of the phrases I put between quotation marksgiven as examples in this message areis a verbatim - word by word quotesliteral word-by-word quote of something that have beenwas said by someone. The only exception is Sara's messageInstead, they are reworded versions pretty close to the original versions (for which I used block quote markup instead) and that is just because my answer is basically just an answerno, not going to her post those).

  I choosechose to avoid verbatim, word by worddirect quotes and instead made up similar ones (with basically the same content but worded differently) because while I wanted to express the severity of the harm both sides have been hurling at each other, I also didn't want to reopen now - ashopefully closed - old wounds by exposing users. I think that we can for example agree that telling someone you hope the readershe will understand - most of those words already caused a lot of fightingbe fired isn't very nice, flames and pain... there is no reason to startmater what exact word were used or who said them.

As for now, I will remove the quotation marks from said lines since after some reading about British English rules it indeed seem that AGAIN by posting namesthey carry a somehow different meaning that they do in my first language (in my language, links and screen now. Thosethey are also used to be takes just as they are express emphasis- samples of bad things we have been yelling at each other in the pasta way similar to italics) , until I can get some insight on better options.

It is quite evident right now. The Stack Exchange Network currently had its own share of problems lately. The company... I don't know what the situation is now, but we all know about the "massive" lay-off that happened some time ago - financial problems, workforce reduction and the such... Has the emergency now ended? I am not sure. "Be nice" problems and public relation ones, Twitter-related incidents, user e-mail disclosures, workers getting personal threats emails even... one incident after another... And they kept coming. Again. And Again. And Again. I don't envy you the slightest - it must have been harsh times. And I work with SharePoint.

And while the staff had its bad time... the community didn't had much more fun. With each new "incident", with each new "meta drama" the userbase (or at least part of them) felt more and more abandoned, betrayed... rejected. Called "leonizing users", told that "they should be ashamed of themselves as human beings"... most of them now lay broken, and any trust they had in what they were doing was lost in the continuous fighting. Some left, some adapted, some no longer care and still exist only by inertia, some started throwing insults at insults... "dirty people" they called the staff, "hope some of you finally lose their work so that someone better may take your place" they said... And The Perfect Circle continued.

Edit: A little clarification since Mark asked for it in a comment on this post - none of the phrases I put between quotation marks in this message are verbatim - word by word quotes that have been said by someone. The only exception is Sara's message (for which I used block quote markup instead) and that is just because my answer is basically just an answer to her post.

  I choose to avoid verbatim, word by word quotes and instead made up similar ones (with basically the same content but worded differently) because - as I hope the readers will understand - most of those words already caused a lot of fighting, flames and pain... there is no reason to start that AGAIN by posting names, links and screen now. Those are to be takes just as they are - samples of bad things we have been yelling at each other in the past.

It is quite evident right now. The Stack Exchange Network currently had its own share of problems lately. The company... I don't know what the situation is now, but we all know about the massive lay-off that happened some time ago - financial problems, workforce reduction and the such... Has the emergency now ended? I am not sure. "Be nice" problems and public relation ones, Twitter-related incidents, user e-mail disclosures, workers getting personal threats emails even... one incident after another... And they kept coming. Again. And Again. And Again. I don't envy you the slightest - it must have been harsh times. And I work with SharePoint.

And while the staff had its bad time... the community didn't had much more fun. With each new "incident", with each new "meta drama" the userbase (or at least part of them) felt more and more abandoned, betrayed... rejected. Called leonizing users, told that they should be ashamed of themselves as human beings... most of them now lay broken, and any trust they had in what they were doing was lost in the continuous fighting. Some left, some adapted, some no longer care and still exist only by inertia, some started throwing insults at insults... dirty people they called the staff, hope some of you finally lose their work so that someone better may take your place they said... And The Perfect Circle continued.

Edit: A little clarification since Mark asked for it in a comment on this post - none of the phrases given as examples in this message is a literal word-by-word quote of something that was said. Instead, they are reworded versions pretty close to the original versions (no, not going to post those). I chose to avoid direct quotes because while I wanted to express the severity of the harm both sides have been hurling at each other, I also didn't want to reopen now - hopefully closed - old wounds by exposing users. I think that we can for example agree that telling someone you hope he will be fired isn't very nice, no mater what exact word were used or who said them.

As for now, I will remove the quotation marks from said lines since after some reading about British English rules it indeed seem that they carry a somehow different meaning that they do in my first language (in my language, they are also used to just express emphasis- in a way similar to italics) , until I can get some insight on better options.

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Edit: A little clarification since Mark asked for it in a comment on this post - none of the phrases I put between quotes ""quotation marks in this message are verbatim - word by word quotes that have been said by someone. The only exception is Sara's message (for which I used block quote markup instead) and that is just because my answer is basically just an answer to her post.
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I choose to avoid verbatim, word by word quotes and instead made up similar ones (with basically the same content but worded differently) because - as I hope the readers will understand - most of those words already caused a lot of fighting, flames and pain... there is no reason to start that AGAIN by posting names, links and screen now. Those are to be takes just as they are - samples of bad things we have been yelling at each other in the past.

Edit: A little clarification since Mark asked for it in a comment on this post - none of the phrases I put between quotes "" in this message are verbatim - word by word quotes that have been said by someone. The only exception is Sara's message and that is just because my answer is basically just an answer to her post.
I choose to avoid verbatim quotes and instead made up similar ones (with basically the same content but worded differently) because - as I hope the readers will understand - most of those words already caused a lot of fighting, flames and pain... there is no reason to start that AGAIN by posting names, links and screen now. Those are to be takes just as they are - samples of bad things we have been yelling at each other in the past.

Edit: A little clarification since Mark asked for it in a comment on this post - none of the phrases I put between quotation marks in this message are verbatim - word by word quotes that have been said by someone. The only exception is Sara's message (for which I used block quote markup instead) and that is just because my answer is basically just an answer to her post.

I choose to avoid verbatim, word by word quotes and instead made up similar ones (with basically the same content but worded differently) because - as I hope the readers will understand - most of those words already caused a lot of fighting, flames and pain... there is no reason to start that AGAIN by posting names, links and screen now. Those are to be takes just as they are - samples of bad things we have been yelling at each other in the past.

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