Timeline for Why does it still take 5 votes to close your own post?
Current License: CC BY-SA 4.0
28 events
when toggle format | what | by | license | comment | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Nov 14, 2019 at 18:04 | vote | accept | CommunityBot | ||
Jul 6, 2019 at 19:31 | answer | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | timeline score: 5 | |
Jul 6, 2019 at 15:40 | comment | added | Servy | @MarkRotteveel They can flag their own post as a duplicate, and then unilaterally accept the suggested duplicate, so no, they can in fact unilaterally close their own post as a duplicate. As for the rest of it, the whole point is that you're concerned with people abusively closing their questions when they don't merit closure. They have been able to do that for years, and simply don't (and there are ways of addressing it were it to happen), so adding more ways for them to do it is not a concern. | |
Jul 6, 2019 at 5:39 | comment | added | Mark Rotteveel | @Servy People can't unilaterally close their own question as a duplicate, but they can accept a suggested duplicate. This btw happens regularly. The main difference is that accepting is more like accepting that you should have searched better and providing a signpost to a better question. It also doesn't prevent others from providing a better or different answer: that could be posted on the duplicate. | |
Jul 5, 2019 at 20:08 | comment | added | Servy | @MarkRotteveel People can already unilaterally close their own questions as a duplicate, and I've never once seen or heard of anyone doing that. So apparently it's not a form of abuse that's actually concerning in practice. Also, in that situation they can often unilaterally delete the post, so why stop them from being able to close it instead? | |
Jul 5, 2019 at 19:02 | comment | added | TylerH | "why are we able to delete our question before the answer gets an upvote?" because, as has already been stated, once an answer has been posted and an upvote been given, the majority of people involved in the post have sent positive feedback regarding the question's worth. Versus the one person trying to delete the question (you), the majority wins. If you ask a question and someone answers without any votes, then it's your word vs one other person's; in those cases the system gives the asker the benefit of the doubt regarding who knows better. | |
Jul 5, 2019 at 12:14 | comment | added | Mark Rotteveel | Allowing a user to close-vote their own post could be abused (eg: get an answer (or self-answer) and then close it, robbing others from the opportunity to provide a different or better answer). | |
Jul 5, 2019 at 4:33 | comment | added | Kaiido | There is something off in what you say... If you think this post has too much value to be deleted, why do you want to close it? Leave it open, why would you be the only one to be able to answer it? If you think it needs to be closed because it was caused by a simple typo [...] and is unlikely to help future readers, then just delete it. | |
Jul 5, 2019 at 3:41 | history | edited | S.S. Anne | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Fix typos
|
Jul 5, 2019 at 1:29 | answer | added | user189804 | timeline score: 2 | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 21:52 | answer | added | Alexei Levenkov | timeline score: 28 | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 20:29 | comment | added | Antoine Pelletier | Removing the accepted mark won't allow you to delete your question. The condition for preventing deletion (if i remember) is only to have an upvoted answer. That's all it takes to disable the delete button. So of course, if you answered your own question, it works. Not if somebody else did. | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 20:28 | comment | added | Jonas Wilms | Wait ... You can't delete your question, because it has an answer, and you probably can't delete the answer because it was accepted ... Can you remove the accepted marker, then remove the answer, then the question? | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 20:18 | comment | added | Antoine Pelletier | Not convinced ? I'd be glad to show you what I call a zombi question | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 20:13 | comment | added | Antoine Pelletier | Ha... well, then why are we able to delete our question before the answer gets an upvote ? One little upvote. And maybe somebody upvoted because the answer looks great. And that's all, that upvoting person didn't even read the question, he just looked at the answer and : "Ho yeah that seems to be a good answer" ...Yes OK, but if the question was correctly understood... It would have been another kind of answer, the kinds that gently tells you to take a course | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 19:58 | comment | added | fbueckert | I don't buy that the question was useless for anybody else; after all, the answer, at least got an upvote. So not only did somebody take the time to answer, somebody else found it useful. There's plenty of evidence to show that curators are overworked and we might want to reduce the number of people it needs to close, but I'm not comfortable leaving that judgement up to the asker entirely. | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 19:48 | comment | added | Antoine Pelletier | But the question have long been forgotten before you realise it... so it is to me... A "zombi" question | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 19:47 | comment | added | Antoine Pelletier | Because as the author of the question, you sometimes realize that things got out of hand. You needed something that you are not going to obtain in an answer. This make the question useless for other user, even for the asker. The answerer should not have even answered the question because (and I have an exemple) because what was asked cannot be answered in text. It takes way more than a simple answer. When the asker (it happened to me) gets better, he then look back at his question and be like : "ho wait... what was I thinking" | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 19:20 | comment | added | fbueckert | A review queue? I don't think so. But anyone at 10k or higher can vote to delete after being closed for two days. 20k don't even need to wait that long. Thing is, though, what argument is there to close your own question, instead of deleting it? If you can't delete it, why should you be able to close it, @Antoine? | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 19:15 | comment | added | Antoine Pelletier | @fbueckert When the question is closed, does it falls in a process where many people can judge the question ? If yes then all's good... no ? | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 19:10 | comment | added | fbueckert | Once you have an upvoted answer, @Antoine, the question requires more than your judgement; deletion in that case wastes the effort of the answerer; something we try not to do. You shouldn't be able to delete in that case. | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 19:09 | comment | added | ChrisF Mod | If someone votes to close your question as a duplicate you should get a notification on the question. You can accept that notification and the community user will close the question as a duplicate. it does rely on someone else spotting the duplicate first though. | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 19:05 | comment | added | Antoine Pelletier | @fbueckert That's exactly THE problem, I want to delete it but i can't !!! | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 19:03 | answer | added | Antoine Pelletier | timeline score: 4 | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 19:00 | comment | added | fbueckert | The arguments in the duplicate seem to make sense. Closure is usually the first step to either fixing, or deletion. If it's your own, and you can delete...what's the problem? | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 18:57 | comment | added | Antoine Pelletier | I was waiting for this very interesting question. How come I can't close my OWN question when I know they deserve closure. That is, while I can't delete them because they've been upvoted | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 18:47 | comment | added | E_net4 | Better question: "Why does it still take 5 votes to close any post?" :) | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 18:02 | history | asked | user8866053 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |