Timeline for Guidance for when to moderator flag vs raise many standard flags
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Jul 4, 2019 at 21:45 | comment | added | Martijn Pieters Mod | @DaveyDaveDave: for the most part, yes. Comments that acquire enough flags are auto-deleted (how many flags depend on the comment content), and flag handling for multiple comments on the same post is streamlined. If you see 4, 5 or more comments in a row that need flagging, a single custom flag becomes more efficient. | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 12:24 | comment | added | DaveyDaveDave | @MartijnPieters - understood, thank you. I didn't realise that NAA flags are also handled by the community - I assumed that they always end up with a mod. Presumably the difference with comments is that they are always handled by a mod? So, one mod flag for many comments is better than many flags, because either way they will be handled by a mod, right? | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 12:09 | comment | added | Martijn Pieters Mod | @DaveyDaveDave: You need to have used NAA flags and a close vote, as those are mostly handled by the community. Otherwise, you end up accumulating declined flags and become flag banned for a while. Elected moderators can't handle all the work that the community can do instead, we'd need many, many more moderators. Just because I cleaned up this case doesn't mean I can handle every case. | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 8:32 | comment | added | DaveyDaveDave | @MartijnPieters - I'm not disagreeing, I completely understand your point, but am trying to understand what the right thing to do next time would be, as your 'decline' tells me I did something wrong. The result I was hoping for was 2 answers deleted, 1 question closed and that's what you did. That was done as the result of a single mod flag. It might also have been achieved with 2 NAA flags and a close vote. Is that what I should have done? I've previously read that a single flag (for comments) is better than many. Is there something inherently different about comments? | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 8:23 | comment | added | Martijn Pieters Mod | @DaveyDaveDave At any rate, community moderation is never perfect and 100% done, you as an individual community member can do your best to contribute your bit but you shouldn’t worry too much if one or two low-traffic posts escape closing even after you voted or flagged; that way madness lies. And us elected moderators have enough on our hands without also picking up the jobs the community can do. | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 8:23 | comment | added | Martijn Pieters Mod | @DaveyDaveDave I was that moderator. I declined the flag for exactly the reasons Andy states here. But while I was there I also closed the post, as it was still a duplicate. That’s what I hoped the community would have done in that case. | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 6:51 | comment | added | DaveyDaveDave | @MartijnPieters, and I'm not completely sure I agree with the principle behind your point - isn't it like the broken window principle? If we don't look after the many low-view posts to the best of our ability, then aren't they all setting precedents for low quality rubbish that creeps into the popular ones? | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 6:49 | comment | added | DaveyDaveDave | @MartijnPieters - fair enough, and that's kind of what I'm saying in my last comment above. But I wasn't really asking about this specific post, more general guidance and I'm left more confused than I was. A moderator deleted the non-answers and closed the question as a dupe, but Andy's advice here seems to be that I should just do a close vote, which would leave the answers - i.e. not what the moderator actually did, but then the moderator declined my flag, which I take to mean I did something wrong, even though he did what I think I asked for. | |
Jul 4, 2019 at 1:22 | comment | added | Martijn Pieters Mod | @DaveyDaveDave If a post doesn’t receive many views, does it matter if it gets closed properly or not? Don’t worry about the tumbleweeds, worry about the popular posts instead :-) | |
Jul 3, 2019 at 13:06 | comment | added | DaveyDaveDave | I realise, of course, that it causes me no harm whatsoever if it doesn't get closed - I'd most likely have already forgotten about it had I done that - but it doesn't feel like the best result for SO. | |
Jul 3, 2019 at 13:06 | comment | added | DaveyDaveDave | OK, that's a fair comment. I guess I'm not convinced it would have got closed though. For reference here's the question (and the dupe): stackoverflow.com/questions/48209274/…. I know that if I'd encountered that in the Close Votes review queue, I'd almost certainly have skipped - especially if I'd missed the one comment at the bottom of 3 long posts that made the duplication clear. Hence my feeling that a close vote would just age away. | |
Jul 3, 2019 at 12:57 | comment | added | Andy Mod | No, "This whole question" - Deal with that problem. Close the question as a duplicate. If it's low quality, downvote it. The community can deal with closed questions and delete them if they are that bad. You need one flag. | |
Jul 3, 2019 at 12:57 | comment | added | DaveyDaveDave | @yivi - yes, that's correct, 1 question, 3 answers to that question. Sorry, I've made that clearer in my question now. | |
Jul 3, 2019 at 12:55 | comment | added | DaveyDaveDave | OK, so, to clarify, it's better for me to raise 3 'not an answer' flags, 5 'no longer needed' comment flags and vote to close a question, than to raise a single mod flag? I guess that's fine if it's the case, but I'm sure I've seen advice elsewhere that mods prefer one mod flag over many 'no longer needed' comment flags. | |
Jul 3, 2019 at 12:54 | comment | added | yivi | These were answers, no questions, I believe. As in many self-answers to the same question. | |
Jul 3, 2019 at 12:51 | history | answered | AndyMod | CC BY-SA 4.0 |