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Mar 17, 2021 at 19:58 | comment | added | cjnash |
And that is another interesting thing about rep - The guy who answered How do I exit vim has thousands upon thousands of rep just from that one question. Do you think that he is that many times smarter than you based on rep alone, just because he answered a question with a one-line answer 10 years ago?
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Jan 9, 2020 at 3:12 | comment | added | user11422223 | Added this since I just got a comment in one of my question posts from @Lightness Races BY-SA 3.0 that my edits further ruin the delivery quality (English) of a question and are not required. He/she edited the comment soon removing that part thereafter (probably because he checked some of my edits which are definitely not to be ignored) but I have kept that in mind. Seriously, is this how you treat someone whose trying to help? (If am/someone else is not of help just discard/ignore the edits instead of acting like you don't need people like us) | |
Jan 9, 2020 at 3:11 | comment | added | user11422223 | Agreed. Its especially demotivating when some of the higher rep users try to impose their insults just because they had a bad time. Remember this - No matter how high in reputation you may go, please don't act like your the only contributor here. We've all spent time here trying to help, may it be with suggested edits. | |
Nov 27, 2019 at 8:30 | comment | added | Legorooj | @TheLethalCoder damn right - I'd contribute more to moderation, but seeing as I have less than 1k rep, I can't do much. But the steps need to stay in place to some extent. Step the users up in queue and mod tool access as they get get more good flags. Just make enough work that it'd take more than a day to get full priveleges. | |
Jun 28, 2019 at 21:16 | comment | added | moltarze | @TheLethalCoder I totally agree with your viewpoints and it's a feature that must be put at the top of the priority list. | |
Jun 28, 2019 at 10:51 | comment | added | TheLethalCoder | @JonEricson Sorry for the spam, it's something I've had in my head for a long time and something I doubt would ever get implemented at this point but if you do read these messages it might be worth a think about. | |
Jun 28, 2019 at 10:50 | comment | added | TheLethalCoder | @JonEricson And this system doesn't have to be a you earn it you keep it, if say the user starts dropping in quality (compared to actions of others) start taking close votes away from them again. | |
Jun 28, 2019 at 10:49 | comment | added | TheLethalCoder | @JonEricson To look at it differently being a tag expert doesn't make you a moderation expert. Give the users who are moderation experts the tools faster than those who don't get them. Largely remove the rep based moderation privileges and move to a system where good moderation gives more users the ability to moderate better. For example, 100 SEs all approved, you can now edit regardless of rep? Successfully flagged 200 questions for closure, you get close vote privileges. etc. | |
Jun 28, 2019 at 10:46 | comment | added | TheLethalCoder | To OP (CC @JonEricson) A large portion of this (tooling) is solved through an, admittedly, major reworking of the system. Give users who spend time moderating the tools to moderate and not to those who know how to earn some quick reputation. I've said in chat a few times (usually SFF because that's where I mainly sit in the network) but being an expert in a tag doesn't mean you know how to moderate the site. I can be a >20k gold badge user but never having closed a post, why should I be given unilateral decisions for dupe closures? | |
Jun 24, 2019 at 18:18 | comment | added | KevinG | Same situation as well. I find it odd that you get moderation privileges by answering questions and not by moderating the site. | |
Jun 24, 2019 at 12:32 | comment | added | franiis | Thank you, I'm in the same situation. Few questions and answers, hundreds of edits and flags, some Meta questions... But for 1k rep it is even discouraged for all kinds of edits (which I understand). I also don't see myself at 3k rep to access more queues in near (or later) future. | |
Jun 24, 2019 at 3:21 | comment | added | Imperishable Night | Interesting. So far what I feel is that, with just a little subject-matter knowledge and a lot of time, it is relatively easy to build up reputation just by answering questions (admittedly, I'm not above answering LQ questions as long as there is a well-defined answer). But working through Triage, with my level of technical knowledge? No thanks. Too many posts out of my expertise to skip. | |
Jun 23, 2019 at 14:32 | comment | added | Ian Kemp | It's both good that a new-ish user is experiencing the same pain that us old farts are... and terribly, terribly sad. | |
Jun 22, 2019 at 23:03 | comment | added | Jon Ericson Staff | @connectyourcharger: Not as much as you might think. In my experience Stack Overflow users really do focus on the content of posts rather than the author. If reputation buys a little bit of the benefit of the doubt, it's only a little bit. | |
Jun 22, 2019 at 22:32 | comment | added | moltarze | @JonEricson Interesting. Does it feel a lot different than being a big name around here? I'd bet it does. | |
Jun 22, 2019 at 22:30 | comment | added | Jon Ericson Staff | I have occasionally used a sock puppet to get a feel for the new user experience, so I think your opinion is quite valuable. The tag synonyms page facelift is, of course, a minor change, but I'm honestly glad it got done because it is has been a barrier to curation and the only way things are going to get better is to knock down all the little walls that cause frustration. The new user experience needs an overhaul so that people can learn the system without unnecessary frustration. | |
Jun 22, 2019 at 16:54 | comment | added | Erik A | If anything, your opinion might matter more, because it proves it's not only those grumpy high-rep expert users that joined from the start and are reminiscing on the golden days when the first ever nullpointer exception question got asked. It's also new users, that are just getting started contributing, and still feel this way. Thanks for sharing. | |
Jun 22, 2019 at 16:41 | comment | added | Zoe - Save the data dump Mod | Reading through the other posts, it appears that your last line is correct. Except it isn't just you - it's everyone. SE doesn't seem to listen to our opinions, at least on feature requests. I completely agree with you though. The situation has gotten worse, and new members are probably facing consequences of that, even though it's not their fault. I had a somewhat rough start here 3 years ago too btw - you're most certainly not alone with that. | |
Jun 22, 2019 at 16:20 | history | answered | moltarze | CC BY-SA 4.0 |