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The observant reader may notice that I didn't actually present a solution here for how to deal with these tags. These tags might be a good example of the problem, but I feel thesaid problem is quite widespread and possibly can't be solved with the system we've built, with too many people who like these types of questions. We probably just need to take small steps to improve wherever possible, until Stack Overflow decides this is a problem and finds and implements adequate changes to the system to address it (or someone else decides to create a new system).

The observant reader may notice that I didn't actually present a solution here for how to deal with these tags. These tags might be a good example of the problem, but I feel the problem is quite widespread and possibly can't be solved with the system we've built, with too many people who like these types of questions.

The observant reader may notice that I didn't actually present a solution here for how to deal with these tags. These tags might be a good example of the problem, but I feel said problem is quite widespread and possibly can't be solved with the system we've built, with too many people who like these types of questions. We probably just need to take small steps to improve wherever possible, until Stack Overflow decides this is a problem and finds and implements adequate changes to the system to address it (or someone else decides to create a new system).

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(Actually I don't think we'd ever truly run out of good questions for a sufficiently complex topic like regex or sed - usually there'd still be some particularly complex questions, or particularly simple ones that just hasn't been asked yet. Although the number of possible questions would tend towards zero for something static.)

(Actually I don't think we'd ever truly run out of good questions for a sufficiently complex topic like regex or sed - usually there'd still be some particularly complex questions, or particularly simple ones that just hasn't been asked yet. Although the number of possible questions would tend towards zero for something static.)

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..., the questions often can't be broken down further

I'm not sure which questions you're looking at, but most of the ones I've seen most certainly can be broken down further (or generalised to something that would be helpful for others).

Taking as an example (since this is what I'm familiar with)...

When you post a broken regex, you should split it up and compare it against the individual parts you want to match. That should lead you to the part that's the problem, and allow you to ask specifically about that. In the linked example, that may come down to asking how to match 2 consecutive characters or what square brackets mean.

When you post a "I need the regex" question, that's usually just too broad. A good version of that question might've involved trying a very simple regex like <img.*src= (if you can't come up with that, you're not at the point of being able to get an answer to the above question yet, but you can ask another question in the process of trying to come up with the aforementioned regex). After that doesn't work, that might've led to the revelation that you want to match the first occurrence of src, or that you want to not match a > with ., either of which would lead to a much better question that could apply to many other scenarios as well. Well, that question is trying to use Regex on HTML, which tends to be quite controversial for good reason, but the point remains.

The result for the above is really simple questions (which any given person may or may not see as an appropriate question for the site), but that's the underlying problem the authors of those questions have, so that makes sense.

it is hard if not impossible to google for the answers ... sometimes it is difficult to put into words what you're trying to do if you don't understand the language

This is always somewhat of a problem, but it's very similar to problems in other languages, where there are also plenty of cases where finding an answer to your original problem would be next to impossible while finding an answer to your sufficiently-broken-down question should be straight-forward (or you find the answer yourself in the process of breaking it down).

these questions are inherently different to regular higher-level programming language questions

You didn't seem to present an argument for this, except "it is smaller", which doesn't make it inherently different.

Almost every possible question has been asked before

Great! So we can stop accepting questions for these tags, and clean up the questions we have.

We're in the business of creating a repository of high-quality questions and answers, not making sure there are actually questions for people to answer.

If you're looking for questions to answer, expand your knowledge to other topics where there's a greater need for answerers, or go to Reddit or somewhere else, which would be more in line with what you're looking for.

the alternative to asking at SO would be to just fully read the manuals; no one honestly expects the OPs to actually do that

No, not read a full manual, but:

  • Do a basic tutorial in the topic you're working with
  • For debugging questions, look up all elements of your code in a manual
  • Do a Google search for whatever the underlying thing you're trying to do is (which you got by breaking it down as above)

And I do not expect a reasonable proportion of askers to actually do that, but we should require it nonetheless.

I personally just expect most to go somewhere else that's more accepting of their question after we make it clear that we don't want it.

MCVEs not applicable to one-line scripts

It definitely is. Just because it's already short doesn't mean it can't (or shouldn't) be made shorter.

But we are talking about a lot of unpaid work here, and no rep as incentive

This is the problem with moderation as a whole.

Although there are a lot of people who do it regardless, because they care about the site.


The observant reader may notice that I didn't actually present a solution here for how to deal with these tags. These tags might be a good example of the problem, but I feel the problem is quite widespread and possibly can't be solved with the system we've built, with too many people who like these types of questions.