Timeline for We need to stop using Comments to Answer Questions; How should we address this?
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Jun 19, 2019 at 19:32 | comment | added | JohnP | @CodyGray - The meta faq disagrees - "Comments are second class citizens on the Stack Exchange network, not designed to hold information for all eternity. They may get cleaned up at any time.*Generally, truly important information should be incorporated into an answer anyway*(either by posting a new answer, if the information answers the question at least partially, or by editing an existing answer, if the information is a minor complement or clarification of that answer)" | |
Mar 14, 2019 at 23:50 | comment | added | linksassin | @CodyGray Perhaps yours was not. But Robert's above was, and between the two of you this thread definitely appears as though you are advocating that answer in comments is fine. Perhaps if one of you mods were to post an actual answer with your official stance on it then there could be a better discussion on that policy. | |
Mar 14, 2019 at 23:23 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | My comment was not an answer. It was a clarification on Makoto's answer. I don't know why this has turned into such controversy, or how what I've said has been so badly misinterpreted. I can't be any more clear than I already have, so i don't see what it would accomplish to discuss it any further. | |
Mar 14, 2019 at 4:23 | comment | added | Xirema | @Makoto Something you wouldn't be putting up with if the Mods had used an Answer for their response like they are supposed to, instead of using comments. ;) | |
Mar 14, 2019 at 3:29 | comment | added | Makoto | So I'm gonna ask this politely - can y'all take this into a chat room? Not keen on having my inbox pinged every now and then with a conversation I'm not totally vested in. :) | |
Mar 14, 2019 at 3:26 | comment | added | Xirema | @CodyGray I'm a little confused by the reference to "sanctionable behavior". I don't think I have indicated that I want some kind of punishment for people who break this rule; clearly, a lot of people break it, and it would be unfair to suddenly be like "enjoy this red mark on your profile for doing something that was actively encouraged by mods for years!" But removing comments and saying "this isn't how comments are meant to be used; if you want to answer the question post an actual answer" isn't going to hurt anyone. | |
Mar 14, 2019 at 2:41 | comment | added | Rubiksmoose | @CodyGray fair point, you never say you are advocating for this. But let me ask: what is the difference between an action that is not advised but is actively participated in by all parties with no reprimand or recourse (including mods see Robert above) and something that is fine and allowable? Isn't a mod especially answering in a comment at least implicit affirmation that it is a fine and welcome thing to do? I'm just confused how you can admit that something is "not recommended" (bad and harmful) but then say that there is nothing that can be done about it. | |
Mar 14, 2019 at 2:32 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | Nowhere have I advocated for the latter, @Rubik. Where are you seeing that? My argument has been very consistent: although answering in comments is not recommended for all the reasons described in the question, do not flag comments that nevertheless do this, because moderators have no interest in destroying potentially valuable information because of some slavish adherence to rules/guidelines. Furthermore, in response to Nicol Bolas, I confirmed that answering in comments, while still not encouraged or advised, is not sanctionable behavior (unlike e.g. vote fraud). | |
Mar 13, 2019 at 23:05 | comment | added | Rubiksmoose | @CodyGray there also seems to be a big difference between "not recommended" and "ignore this completely" though right? You seem to be advocating for the latter. | |
Mar 13, 2019 at 22:18 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | @Rubik The help text is fine. Comments are not recommended for answering. Big difference between "not recommended" and "moderators should destroy value by deleting them". | |
Mar 13, 2019 at 18:37 | comment | added | Rubiksmoose | @CodyGray The help text seems to disagree: "When shouldn't I comment? Comments are not recommended for any of the following: [..] Answering a question or providing an alternate solution to an existing answer; instead, post an actual answer (or edit to expand an existing one);" | |
Mar 8, 2019 at 23:27 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | No, I do not consider it a "misuse" of the site. Comments are not strictly regulated. If you're following the Code of Conduct, and you are keeping on topic, then it's a valid comment. Is it ideal? Not necessarily, for some of the reasons pointed out in the question. But not even close to being a reason to sanction a user. @Nicol | |
Mar 8, 2019 at 23:25 | comment | added | Nicol Bolas | @CodyGray: "I absolutely refuse to destroy value by removing on-topic comments just because you think they should have been an answer." Have you considered using your moderation abilities to talk to the user in question, and perhaps sanction them if they repeatedly do so after talking with them? Do you even consider the posting of answers as comments to be a misuse of the site, or do you think it's fine? | |
Mar 8, 2019 at 22:56 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | Or I have a bit too much context that wasn't visible from the question; either way. :-) | |
Mar 8, 2019 at 22:55 | comment | added | Makoto | @CodyGray: I seem to be leaning a bit too much on context. Your comment was exactly what I wanted to convey. I've edited my answer. | |
Mar 8, 2019 at 22:55 | history | edited | Makoto | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Mar 8, 2019 at 22:51 | comment | added | Cody Gray Mod | Flagging chatty comments that no longer serve a purpose is fine. Flagging comments with "this should be an answer" is not fine. I've declined several of those today. I absolutely refuse to destroy value by removing on-topic comments just because you think they should have been an answer. Post your own answer if you're that bothered by it. | |
Mar 8, 2019 at 22:43 | history | answered | Makoto | CC BY-SA 4.0 |