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Jan 19, 2019 at 23:44 comment added jpmc26 @PetterFriberg Labeling things as more severe than they are to scare people and saying it's okay because people should always be perfect is dishonest and ultimately harmful. It's a tactic used by extremists. Do you not realize that this issue is couched in the larger cultural debate about speech rights? Labeling something as "abusive" or "hate speech" is just a tactic used to justify control.
Jan 19, 2019 at 21:51 comment added Petter Friberg AFIK There is no automatic rep penalty nor automatic suspension (as for flags on question), hence mod before suspension will see all the comments flagged as they where written and I doubt that the actual flag is of great importance
Jan 19, 2019 at 21:47 comment added Petter Friberg So it's better for the user to not be unfriendly since some users will judge it as abusive. We will never be able to establish the exact difference (as for other flags VLQ vs NAA). On some comments all flags will be more or less valid depending on culture/backround etc.if this has long term consequences for a single user, suspended but they where "Just unfriendly" they will have to discuss this with mods .
Jan 19, 2019 at 21:33 comment added jpmc26 @PetterFriberg No because labeling something as abusive has long term consequences for the user's standing.
Jan 19, 2019 at 21:17 comment added Petter Friberg I like your answer bit I still doubt SE intention was for us to get perfect hit rate, they know well that for some it's abusive, for some unfriendly and for some just no longer need. I don't think they taught mods would decline an abusive flag because the mod just think it's unfriendly. Hence what ever flag Andras raised it should have been approved
Jan 18, 2019 at 0:06 comment added jpmc26 @AndrasDeak I don't think there's any real difference between the notions of "abuse" and "abusive language." The latter came about as the concept of language and words over long periods of time (e.g., daily to your children) also having the capacity to cause damage. I would rather distinguish between abusive (blatantly extreme, insulting, and probably vulgar), rude (insulting but not extreme), and merely inappropriate (disrespectful but probably not intended to be harmful). I think most jokes like this would fall into the latter category.
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not a hill worth dying on; the first part is too important
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not a hill worth dying on; the first part is too important
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not a hill worth dying on; the first part is too important
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Jan 17, 2019 at 21:48 comment added Andras Deak -- Слава Україні Thanks for ignoring the slur, I'm still certain that it's a red herring here. As for "abuse", you're probably right, I'm not completely clear on the exact subtleties of English around these terms. If it makes any difference I meant less "abuse" per se, more "abusive language". This might not make an actual difference. I'll have to think about your point regarding what constitutes abuse. Reasonable people can be expected to roll their eyes and move on from a lot of crap thrown at them on the internet. But there's only so much pushback one can take if they face it all the time.
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