Timeline for The Ask Question Wizard Is Now In Testing!
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Dec 19, 2018 at 23:49 | comment | added | user4639281 | @TravisJ literally anything else. As I commented on the question above, an option for how-to questions that redirects to the normal ask question page would be the least they could do. Just anything that removes the implication that we only accept debugging questions. | |
Dec 19, 2018 at 23:46 | comment | added | Travis J | What suggestion do you have to improve the tool so that it does not mislead users? | |
Dec 19, 2018 at 23:42 | comment | added | user4639281 | @TravisJ My point (reiterated) is that this is a tool to teach new users our topicality, and of all those who are exposed to this, all of them will be misled by it; and that the comment I'm quoting seems to say that this was designed into it. | |
Dec 19, 2018 at 23:38 | comment | added | user4639281 | @TravisJ I'm using the words directly from the comment that I'm quoting. I didn't say "this feature is designed to broadly limit how-to style questions", I said "the feature is designed to limit how-to style questions, as stated by Jon". You included the word "broadly", and are arguing against the use of that word. As well to say "How-to style questions are not broadly being limited, they are just not being encouraged (still not prevented in any way)" is disingenuous because they are actively being discouraged by the interface, regardless of the portion of the userbase exposed. | |
Dec 19, 2018 at 23:33 | comment | added | Shog9 | The ideal solution here would be to take something like SoftwareRecs' guidelines and adapt them to Stack Overflow: teach folks to describe a problem, lay out their requirements, research... As a step-by-step process. HOWTO questions shouldn't be hard, and usually aren't - when they go south, folks tend to be their own worst enemies, forgetting that they have to communicate what they already know. | |
Dec 19, 2018 at 23:25 | comment | added | Travis J | Are you trolling me? Hard to tell. To reiterate, it is incorrect for you to state that this feature is designed to broadly limit how-to style questions without including the caveat that the feature is only being applied to new users. Without mentioning that fact, and without including that fact in your numbers, it creates a false statement since it applies too broadly. The site topicality is not changing. How-to style questions are not broadly being limited, they are just not being encouraged (still not prevented in any way) for a subset of the userbase. | |
Dec 19, 2018 at 23:10 | comment | added | user4639281 | @TravisJ you're denying that this is being shown to new users? What are you on about? | |
Dec 19, 2018 at 21:32 | comment | added | Travis J | Sorry, but that is wrong. As stated, it is only for a subset of the userbase, namely users who are just starting or as outlined by the combined points above. You must also include the fact that the limit is scoped if you are to make that argument. | |
Dec 19, 2018 at 21:28 | comment | added | user4639281 | @TravisJ no I'm surmising that the feature is designed to limit how-to style questions, as stated by Jon. The fact that this feature is designed to teach new users our topicality is the entire point. | |
Dec 19, 2018 at 21:26 | comment | added | Travis J | There is a missing premise here though. You surmise that this feature means to limit HOW TO questions and similar no code questions. However, you seem to exclude the fact that this only does so for users who are brand new to the site. This is not a change in topicality for Stack Overflow itself, it is a small barrier for new users. The numbers you cite are for the entire userbase, if they were limited to users who were only <50 reputation, what do you suppose they would look like at that point? I would wager much worse. | |
Dec 19, 2018 at 21:17 | history | answered | user4639281 | CC BY-SA 4.0 |