Timeline for What does our long term community need? What does our long term community need to feel valued?
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Aug 30, 2018 at 9:35 | history | edited | ForceBru | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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Aug 29, 2018 at 21:28 | comment | added | Travis J | @Andy - Yes, there were definitely unintended side effects. It has been 4 years, it should really be revisited. | |
Aug 29, 2018 at 21:00 | comment | added | Andy | @Flimm I disagree, I don't think we want super basic questions here from people that have not even some kind of baseline knowledge about coding. There are plenty of sites and tutorials for that. That is part of the "basic research" requirement that SO has (or did have). | |
Aug 29, 2018 at 20:56 | comment | added | Andy | @TravisJ I think the close reasons are important too; the last set of close reason changes seems to have taken things in the wrong direct WRT quality, IMO. | |
Aug 29, 2018 at 9:44 | comment | added | ForceBru | @Flimm, if you want to be less rude, you can say: “RTFM (Read The Following Manual): <link_to_docs>”, but that’s kinda pointless because most people are capable of using search engines themselves, right? Also, the documentation is there exactly to answer the basic questions! What’s the point of duplicating the info already found in the docs on SO, then? If a question already has an answer somewhere, one should vote to close and link to the dupe (be it the docs or another question on SO), to my mind. | |
Aug 29, 2018 at 8:35 | comment | added | Flimm | @MSalters SO Documentation failed, and I wasn't surprised that it failed, but its aim wasn't to keep basic newbie questions off SO itself, I would disagree with that. I do agree with your last sentence though, good manuals are better than SO questions, mainly because a good manual is well-written, comprehensive and authoritative. SO answers can be well-written and even comprehensive, but they can never be authoritative, which is one of the main reasons I thought Documentation was a doomed project. About RTFM specifically: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/23628 | |
Aug 29, 2018 at 8:08 | comment | added | MSalters | @Flimm: Nope. StackOverflow Documentation is a failed and buried project, but its aim was exactly to keep those basic newbie questions off SO itself. Documentation failed because still it wasn't good enough as real manuals. So we can transitively conclude that real manuals are definitely better than StackOverflow newbie questions. | |
Aug 29, 2018 at 7:50 | comment | added | Flimm | RTFM is never an appropriate comment or answer ever. We want to welcome basic, newbie questions on StackOverflow! Absolutely! StackOverflow is supposed to be a repository of good questions and answers, just because a question is already answered in a manual somewhere doesn't mean it's a bad question. | |
Aug 28, 2018 at 12:20 | comment | added | S.L. Barth is on codidact.com | Most new users only become interested in the quality of their question after they got their first downvote. That's why idownvotedbecau.se works - it gives the explanation when the new user is open to it. | |
Aug 27, 2018 at 12:40 | comment | added | ForceBru | @JoshCaswell, of course, it’s not the solution, it can be an important part of a more complete solution, though. | |
Aug 27, 2018 at 5:32 | comment | added | Travis J | Question quality is the direct result of the set of close reasons. If you want to tweak question quality, and the response that the community has to questions in general, then you should consider focusing more on changing the close reasons. | |
Aug 26, 2018 at 22:48 | comment | added | jscs | +0.85 : Is question quality a fundamental problem? Indubitably. Is the Help Center the solution? I'm skeptical. | |
Aug 26, 2018 at 22:41 | history | answered | ForceBru | CC BY-SA 4.0 |