Timeline for Please don't shoot the messenger, what can I do better?
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Aug 3, 2018 at 19:22 | comment | added | Servy | @pnuts Again, it's not a statement on how people are required to vote. It's a statement trying to inform people not familiar with meta how other's do vote. As mentioned before, it's descriptive, not prescriptive. And it does a bad job of it, because it doesn't accurately describe how people actually vote. | |
Aug 3, 2018 at 19:18 | comment | added | Servy | @pnuts Lots of people feel that it's desirable for people to be able to express their opinion on a proposal by voting, rather than requiring everyone to post an answer or comment just to say whether they support it or not. Much less noise that way. If you think a given proposal is useful, you're free to vote accordingly, just like everyone else does. But regardless, that you wish people voted differently doesn't mean someone describing how people do vote is wrong. | |
Aug 3, 2018 at 19:08 | comment | added | Servy | @pnuts Yeah, and clearly people use their votes to reflect their opinions of proposals regardless of how their tagged. That makes it a poor description of how people vote. If it accurately described how people vote, it would be a good description (or at least a better one). | |
Aug 3, 2018 at 18:55 | comment | added | Servy | @pnuts The help center is descriptive, not prescriptive. It's also just...not very good in its description. It's not telling people that they should be voting based on their agreement with a feature request, it's saying that many people on the site do that. And it's wrong to say that it only applies to feature requests, it tends to apply to any post putting forth a proposal. Tags have nothing to do with it. | |
Aug 3, 2018 at 18:13 | comment | added | BoltClock Mod | I'm a mod and I upvoted this answer. | |
Aug 3, 2018 at 16:56 | comment | added | LinkBerest - SO sold our work | I might just delete this soon anyway as I have had a fairly negative view of SO in recent months and that might have too much influence in my view of moderators/staff and anything even dealing with the "welcome wagon" to really post anything objective | |
Aug 3, 2018 at 16:53 | comment | added | LinkBerest - SO sold our work | ...cont: Note, I still see people asking for comments due to downvotes fairly regularly who do not seem to understand that fact which requires searching meta or actually reading the tour. In this case though I just feel like this post is a similar type of question from a mod (who as an elected position wants and deserves feedback) and my answer is "cause I disagreed". Which I'll give cause that could have been the one & only reason others downvoted (i.e. not personal, just ehh...I didn't agree with this one) | |
Aug 3, 2018 at 16:48 | comment | added | Makoto | @pnuts: I'm sorry, I didn't realize that "perceived usefulness" was that much different from agreement. If I don't think a discussion is useful, I'm tacitly disagreeing with it. If I don't think a support question is warranted, I'm tacitly disagreeing with the request. If I don't think a response to either of those is particularly useful, I'm tacitly disagreeing with it. | |
Aug 3, 2018 at 16:47 | comment | added | LinkBerest - SO sold our work | yes, and I'm sure people (at least many of the people involved here and certainly a mod) know this but I'm talking about how it can still feel like "I disagree" is a negative just because of how people perceive downvotes. I disagree (downvote) can simply mean "I don't agree" and it can be hard to remember that @Makoto | |
Aug 3, 2018 at 16:42 | comment | added | Makoto | Nit: voting is and has very much been established as being different on Meta. | |
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Aug 3, 2018 at 14:14 | history | answered | LinkBerest - SO sold our work | CC BY-SA 4.0 |