Timeline for Please don't shoot the messenger, what can I do better?
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Aug 2, 2018 at 20:47 | comment | added | Mark Rotteveel | The problem with this, is it that it seems to define the community as those who stick around on meta. That is too limited. | |
Aug 1, 2018 at 19:28 | comment | added | user3956566 | @Servy It's funny when you're banging your head on a brick wall to get your point across and you realise that's what the other person has been doing all along. sounds of pennies dropping | |
Aug 1, 2018 at 17:30 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | For what it's worth I didn't actually see anything wrong with your answer, nor any significant backlash against it (other than some downvotes which, as you know, are not personal). But I didn't look very closely :) | |
Aug 1, 2018 at 16:47 | comment | added | user3956566 | @LightnessRacesinOrbit yes I think that's part of the problem. That and poor social skills. :) | |
Aug 1, 2018 at 16:46 | comment | added | user3956566 | @Servy ah yes that makes sense. Some things SE does I agree with some I don't. I have advocated for the community to have more effective tools in handling poor content. That's important. I also don't like how the community has become increasingly censured / given negative feedback. We need support to keep going. | |
Aug 1, 2018 at 16:44 | comment | added | Servy | @YvetteColomb I'm saying you have two choices here. You can choose to advocate for these policies personally, because you personally believe in them, and if you make that choice, you should be prepared for the feedback that those opinions are going to evoke in others (just as anyone is who advocates a position on meta), or, if you so choose, you can not personally advocate for the changes, and leave it to those who are responsible for conveying the companies policies to convey the company's policies. Both options are acceptable. | |
Aug 1, 2018 at 16:39 | comment | added | user3956566 | @Servy yes it's food for thought. Clearly I've been at odds. There were obvious improvements I could and did make.. But I hit a wall. I know I sound thick - but I am on some things, very literal. So it takes me time to get the hang of things in a social sense. But once I work out what's expected of me it will be ok. Does that make sense? So you're saying I should be more in tune with what people want and not so worried about the company's policies? | |
Aug 1, 2018 at 16:36 | comment | added | Servy | @YvetteColomb I'm not saying you can't, I'm more saying that, if you choose to do so, you're not just the messenger anymore. You're making the decision yourself, to advocate for these policies, and so the consequences of doing so are yours to bear. You're not "just the messenger", and someone should should be immune form the consequences of users not agreeing with the policies you're advocating, because you're actually advocating them personally. Obviously you, just like any other member of the community, are allowed to advocate for policy changes. | |
Aug 1, 2018 at 16:05 | comment | added | Lightness Races in Orbit | I hadn't thought of this at all but it's a good point. I'm sure Yvette means well (I really am) but, indeed, she is not (or should not be) a messenger of SE. Perhaps that's the problem. | |
Aug 1, 2018 at 15:01 | comment | added | user3956566 | that's interesting. Stop defending the company. Yes I do that. Point taken.thanks | |
Aug 1, 2018 at 14:40 | comment | added | Cerbrus | Agreed, Servy. Like I said in my answer: Stick to the facts. | |
Aug 1, 2018 at 14:38 | comment | added | Servy | @Cerbrus Sometimes it's unavoidable, for example, the example of this question. Saying something in that question is likely important, as one of her moderation actions was questioned. But using that post as a platform to talk about the greater views and changes of the company, rather than keeping it as much about the specifics of that post, certainly isn't necessary. | |
Aug 1, 2018 at 14:33 | comment | added | Cerbrus | "many of these discussions." > "any of these discussions." That seems a lot less stressful. | |
Aug 1, 2018 at 14:31 | history | answered | Servy | CC BY-SA 4.0 |