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This is a central issue on StackOverflow

I am a low rep user. I'm trying to raise my reputation and to contribute to the site, but I find the 50 rep comment limitation to be incredibly frustrating.

There have been several situations where I run into this. Recently, I discovered an answer to a problem that I have been having for a while, but the solution given had syntax for a different version of the tool I was using (an older one, but I don't know which version). In that scenario all I needed was clarification from the original author. It could have been as simple as "version 2.7.4" and then I could use that for further searches. That clarification could also have been beneficial for future visitors to that thread. But in this case there was absolutely no recourse for getting around commenting short of mining for higher reputation or cheating the system like Mr. Exhibit A in OP's question.

Seeking higher reputation is something of a chicken and egg problem thanks to my relative lack of expertise compared to all you geniuses people. Much of my knowledge of programming is coming from SO anyway, so my contributions can easily suffer from a derivative quality that often comes with comments like, "possible duplicate of..." from other people that visit the question.

When trying to answer questions, I've had an inclination to leave comments in order to greater understand the asker's problem, but I can't even ask clarifying questions on unanswered questions. This further exasperates my inability to contribute such that I can earn the requisite reputation to comment.

To those of you who are beyond me, and for whom this is no longer an issue, I think it's really worth considering the cost that the current comment scheme incurs on well meaning individuals like me. I don't agree with the approach our mystery commenter took to dealing with the issue, but I do agree with their sentiment. I want to be a contributory member, and as I improve my knowledge I intend to share it, but I refuse to believe that this is the optimal solution to balancing the need to prevent bots and spammers while providing a good user experience. Perhaps I'm just not aware of the whole problem.

My solution

#My solution# FWIWFWIW, my solution is this: raise the comment reputation threshold a bit e.g. 60 or so (bear with me), but allow users under 60 and above 10 rep to spend a portion of their rep to leave a comment. This way, to address my two issues above:

  1. I can spend my (perhaps 3-5) rep to comment to get a clarifying answer that I really need. It's painful because it sets me back on my way to unlimited comments, but it's not unthinkable so I can use it if it's vital
  2. I can spend my reputation to comment on their question in order to better answer their question. Maybe the price to comment on asked questions is lower (e.g. 2-3 rep or so?) to further incentivize that action.

I think this is a reasonable solution to the problem. It maintains the incentive that people contribute to SO, it leaves a barrier to spammers (maybe it increases spam comments a bit, but it's not unbounded because spammers will eventually run out of reputation to spend) and it allows people to pay a price for the unusual case where they need to get out a comment. Furthermore, it's not an unheard of action, this would be analogous to how downvoting is a costly action, but not impossible.

I'd love to hear others' thoughts.

#This is a central issue on StackOverflow

I am a low rep user. I'm trying to raise my reputation and to contribute to the site, but I find the 50 rep comment limitation to be incredibly frustrating.

There have been several situations where I run into this. Recently, I discovered an answer to a problem that I have been having for a while, but the solution given had syntax for a different version of the tool I was using (an older one, but I don't know which version). In that scenario all I needed was clarification from the original author. It could have been as simple as "version 2.7.4" and then I could use that for further searches. That clarification could also have been beneficial for future visitors to that thread. But in this case there was absolutely no recourse for getting around commenting short of mining for higher reputation or cheating the system like Mr. Exhibit A in OP's question.

Seeking higher reputation is something of a chicken and egg problem thanks to my relative lack of expertise compared to all you geniuses people. Much of my knowledge of programming is coming from SO anyway, so my contributions can easily suffer from a derivative quality that often comes with comments like, "possible duplicate of..." from other people that visit the question.

When trying to answer questions, I've had an inclination to leave comments in order to greater understand the asker's problem, but I can't even ask clarifying questions on unanswered questions. This further exasperates my inability to contribute such that I can earn the requisite reputation to comment.

To those of you who are beyond me, and for whom this is no longer an issue, I think it's really worth considering the cost that the current comment scheme incurs on well meaning individuals like me. I don't agree with the approach our mystery commenter took to dealing with the issue, but I do agree with their sentiment. I want to be a contributory member, and as I improve my knowledge I intend to share it, but I refuse to believe that this is the optimal solution to balancing the need to prevent bots and spammers while providing a good user experience. Perhaps I'm just not aware of the whole problem.

#My solution# FWIW, my solution is this: raise the comment reputation threshold a bit e.g. 60 or so (bear with me), but allow users under 60 and above 10 rep to spend a portion of their rep to leave a comment. This way, to address my two issues above:

  1. I can spend my (perhaps 3-5) rep to comment to get a clarifying answer that I really need. It's painful because it sets me back on my way to unlimited comments, but it's not unthinkable so I can use it if it's vital
  2. I can spend my reputation to comment on their question in order to better answer their question. Maybe the price to comment on asked questions is lower (e.g. 2-3 rep or so?) to further incentivize that action.

I think this is a reasonable solution to the problem. It maintains the incentive that people contribute to SO, it leaves a barrier to spammers (maybe it increases spam comments a bit, but it's not unbounded because spammers will eventually run out of reputation to spend) and it allows people to pay a price for the unusual case where they need to get out a comment. Furthermore, it's not an unheard of action, this would be analogous to how downvoting is a costly action, but not impossible.

I'd love to hear others' thoughts.

This is a central issue on StackOverflow

I am a low rep user. I'm trying to raise my reputation and to contribute to the site, but I find the 50 rep comment limitation to be incredibly frustrating.

There have been several situations where I run into this. Recently, I discovered an answer to a problem that I have been having for a while, but the solution given had syntax for a different version of the tool I was using (an older one, but I don't know which version). In that scenario all I needed was clarification from the original author. It could have been as simple as "version 2.7.4" and then I could use that for further searches. That clarification could also have been beneficial for future visitors to that thread. But in this case there was absolutely no recourse for getting around commenting short of mining for higher reputation or cheating the system like Mr. Exhibit A in OP's question.

Seeking higher reputation is something of a chicken and egg problem thanks to my relative lack of expertise compared to all you geniuses people. Much of my knowledge of programming is coming from SO anyway, so my contributions can easily suffer from a derivative quality that often comes with comments like, "possible duplicate of..." from other people that visit the question.

When trying to answer questions, I've had an inclination to leave comments in order to greater understand the asker's problem, but I can't even ask clarifying questions on unanswered questions. This further exasperates my inability to contribute such that I can earn the requisite reputation to comment.

To those of you who are beyond me, and for whom this is no longer an issue, I think it's really worth considering the cost that the current comment scheme incurs on well meaning individuals like me. I don't agree with the approach our mystery commenter took to dealing with the issue, but I do agree with their sentiment. I want to be a contributory member, and as I improve my knowledge I intend to share it, but I refuse to believe that this is the optimal solution to balancing the need to prevent bots and spammers while providing a good user experience. Perhaps I'm just not aware of the whole problem.

My solution

FWIW, my solution is this: raise the comment reputation threshold a bit e.g. 60 or so (bear with me), but allow users under 60 and above 10 rep to spend a portion of their rep to leave a comment. This way, to address my two issues above:

  1. I can spend my (perhaps 3-5) rep to comment to get a clarifying answer that I really need. It's painful because it sets me back on my way to unlimited comments, but it's not unthinkable so I can use it if it's vital
  2. I can spend my reputation to comment on their question in order to better answer their question. Maybe the price to comment on asked questions is lower (e.g. 2-3 rep or so?) to further incentivize that action.

I think this is a reasonable solution to the problem. It maintains the incentive that people contribute to SO, it leaves a barrier to spammers (maybe it increases spam comments a bit, but it's not unbounded because spammers will eventually run out of reputation to spend) and it allows people to pay a price for the unusual case where they need to get out a comment. Furthermore, it's not an unheard of action, this would be analogous to how downvoting is a costly action, but not impossible.

I'd love to hear others' thoughts.

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#This is a central issue on SO, IMOStackOverflow

I am a low rep user. I'm trying to raise my reputation and to contribute to the site, but I find the 50 rep comment limitation to be incredibly frustrating.

There have been several situations where I run into this. Recently, I discovered an answer to a problem that I have been having for a while, but the solution given had syntax for a different version of the tool I was using (an older one, but I don't know which version). In that scenario all I needed was clarification from the original author. It could have been as simple as "version 2.7.4" and then I could use that for further searches. That clarification could also have been beneficial for future visitors to that thread. But in this case there was absolutely no recourse for getting around commenting short of mining for higher reputation or cheating the system like Mr. Exhibit A in OP's question.

Seeking higher reputation is something of a chicken and egg problem thanks to my relative lack of expertise compared to all you geniuses people. Much of my knowledge of programming is coming from SO anyway, so my contributions can easily suffer from a derivative quality that often comes with comments like, "possible duplicate of..." from other people that visit the question.

When trying to answer questions, I've had an inclination to leave comments in order to greater understand the asker's problem, but I can't even ask clarifying questions on unanswered questionersquestions. This further exasperates my inability to contribute such that I can earn the requisite reputation to comment.

To those of you who are beyond me, and for whom this is no longer an issue, I think it's really worth considering the cost that the current comment scheme incurs on well meaning individuals like me. I don't agree with the approach our mystery commenter took to dealing with the issue, but I do agree with their sentiment. I want to be a contributory member, and as I improve my knowledge I intend to share it, but I refuse to believe that this is the optimal solution to balancing the need to prevent bots and spammers while providing a good user experience. Perhaps I'm just not aware of the whole problem.

#My solution# FWIW, my solution is this: raise the comment reputation threshold a bit e.g. 60 or so (bear with me), but allow users under 60 and above 10 rep to spend a portion of their rep to leave a comment. This way, to address my two issues above:

  1. I can spend my (perhaps 3-5) rep to comment to get a clarifying answer that I really need. It's painful because it sets me back on my way to unlimited comments, but it's not unthinkable so I can use it if it's vital
  2. I can spend my reputation to comment on their question in order to better answer their question. Maybe the price to comment on asked questions is lower (e.g. 2-3 rep or so?) to further incentivize that action.

I think this is a reasonable solution to the problem. It maintains the incentive that people contribute to SO, it leaves a barrier to spammers (maybe it increases spam comments a bit, but it's not unbounded because spammers will eventually run out of reputation to spend) and it allows people to pay a price for the unusual case where they need to get out a comment. Furthermore, it's not an unheard of action, this would be analogous to how downvoting is a costly action, but not impossible.

I'd love to hear others' thoughts.

#This is a central issue on SO, IMO

I am a low rep user. I'm trying to raise my reputation and to contribute to the site, but I find the 50 rep comment limitation to be incredibly frustrating.

There have been several situations where I run into this. Recently, I discovered an answer to a problem that I have been having for a while, but the solution given had syntax for a different version of the tool I was using (an older one, but I don't know which version). In that scenario all I needed was clarification from the original author. It could have been as simple as "version 2.7.4" and then I could use that for further searches. That clarification could also have been beneficial for future visitors to that thread. But in this case there was absolutely no recourse for getting around commenting short of mining for higher reputation or cheating the system like Mr. Exhibit A in OP's question.

Seeking higher reputation is something of a chicken and egg problem thanks to my relative lack of expertise compared to all you geniuses people. Much of my knowledge of programming is coming from SO anyway, so my contributions can easily suffer from a derivative quality that often comes with comments like, "possible duplicate of..." from other people that visit the question.

When trying to answer questions, I've had an inclination to leave comments in order to greater understand the asker's problem, but I can't even ask clarifying questions on unanswered questioners. This further exasperates my inability to contribute such that I can earn the requisite reputation to comment.

To those of you who are beyond me, and for whom this is no longer an issue, I think it's really worth considering the cost that the current comment scheme incurs on well meaning individuals like me. I don't agree with the approach our mystery commenter took to dealing with the issue, but I do agree with their sentiment. I want to be a contributory member, and as I improve my knowledge I intend to share it, but I refuse to believe that this is the optimal solution to balancing the need to prevent bots and spammers while providing a good user experience. Perhaps I'm just not aware of the whole problem.

#My solution# FWIW, my solution is this: raise the comment reputation threshold a bit e.g. 60 or so (bear with me), but allow users under 60 and above 10 rep to spend a portion of their rep to leave a comment. This way, to address my two issues above:

  1. I can spend my (perhaps 3-5) rep to comment to get a clarifying answer that I really need. It's painful because it sets me back on my way to unlimited comments, but it's not unthinkable so I can use it if it's vital
  2. I can spend my reputation to comment on their question in order to better answer their question. Maybe the price to comment on asked questions is lower (e.g. 2-3 rep or so?) to further incentivize that action.

I think this is a reasonable solution to the problem. It maintains the incentive that people contribute to SO, it leaves a barrier to spammers (maybe it increases spam comments a bit, but it's not unbounded because spammers will eventually run out of reputation to spend) and it allows people to pay a price for the unusual case where they need to get out a comment. Furthermore, it's not an unheard of action, this would be analogous to how downvoting is a costly action, but not impossible.

I'd love to hear others' thoughts.

#This is a central issue on StackOverflow

I am a low rep user. I'm trying to raise my reputation and to contribute to the site, but I find the 50 rep comment limitation to be incredibly frustrating.

There have been several situations where I run into this. Recently, I discovered an answer to a problem that I have been having for a while, but the solution given had syntax for a different version of the tool I was using (an older one, but I don't know which version). In that scenario all I needed was clarification from the original author. It could have been as simple as "version 2.7.4" and then I could use that for further searches. That clarification could also have been beneficial for future visitors to that thread. But in this case there was absolutely no recourse for getting around commenting short of mining for higher reputation or cheating the system like Mr. Exhibit A in OP's question.

Seeking higher reputation is something of a chicken and egg problem thanks to my relative lack of expertise compared to all you geniuses people. Much of my knowledge of programming is coming from SO anyway, so my contributions can easily suffer from a derivative quality that often comes with comments like, "possible duplicate of..." from other people that visit the question.

When trying to answer questions, I've had an inclination to leave comments in order to greater understand the asker's problem, but I can't even ask clarifying questions on unanswered questions. This further exasperates my inability to contribute such that I can earn the requisite reputation to comment.

To those of you who are beyond me, and for whom this is no longer an issue, I think it's really worth considering the cost that the current comment scheme incurs on well meaning individuals like me. I don't agree with the approach our mystery commenter took to dealing with the issue, but I do agree with their sentiment. I want to be a contributory member, and as I improve my knowledge I intend to share it, but I refuse to believe that this is the optimal solution to balancing the need to prevent bots and spammers while providing a good user experience. Perhaps I'm just not aware of the whole problem.

#My solution# FWIW, my solution is this: raise the comment reputation threshold a bit e.g. 60 or so (bear with me), but allow users under 60 and above 10 rep to spend a portion of their rep to leave a comment. This way, to address my two issues above:

  1. I can spend my (perhaps 3-5) rep to comment to get a clarifying answer that I really need. It's painful because it sets me back on my way to unlimited comments, but it's not unthinkable so I can use it if it's vital
  2. I can spend my reputation to comment on their question in order to better answer their question. Maybe the price to comment on asked questions is lower (e.g. 2-3 rep or so?) to further incentivize that action.

I think this is a reasonable solution to the problem. It maintains the incentive that people contribute to SO, it leaves a barrier to spammers (maybe it increases spam comments a bit, but it's not unbounded because spammers will eventually run out of reputation to spend) and it allows people to pay a price for the unusual case where they need to get out a comment. Furthermore, it's not an unheard of action, this would be analogous to how downvoting is a costly action, but not impossible.

I'd love to hear others' thoughts.

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#This is a central issue on SO, IMO

I am a low rep user. I'm trying to raise my reputation and to contribute to the site, but I find the 50 rep comment limitation to be incredibly frustrating.

There have been several situations where I run into this. Recently, I discovered an answer to a problem that I have been having for a while, but the solution given had syntax for a different version of the tool I was using (an older one, but I don't know which version). In that scenario all I needed was clarification from the original author. It could have been as simple as "version 2.7.4" and then I could use that for further searches. That clarification could also have been beneficial for future visitors to that thread. But in this case there was absolutely no recourse for getting around commenting short of mining for higher reputation or cheating the system like Mr. Exhibit A in OP's question.

Seeking higher reputation is something of a chicken and egg problem thanks to my relative lack of expertise compared to all you geniusesgeniuses people. Much of my knowledge of programming is coming from SO anyway, so my contributions can easily suffer from a derivative quality that often comes with comments like, "possible duplicate of..." from other people that visit the question.

When trying to answer questions, I've had an inclination to leave comments in order to greater understand the asker's problem, but I can't even ask clarifying questions on unanswered questioners. This further exasperates my inability to contribute such that I can earn the requisite reputation to comment.

To those of you who are beyond me, and for whom this is no longer an issue, I think it's really worth considering the cost that the current comment scheme incurs on well meaning individuals like me. I don't agree with the approach our mystery commenter took to dealing with the issue, but I do agree with their sentiment. I want to be a contributory member, and as I improve my knowledge I intend to share it, but I refuse to believe that this is the optimal solution to balancing the need to prevent bots and spammers while providing a good user experience. Perhaps I'm just not aware of the whole problem.

#My solution# FWIW, my solution is this: raise the comment reputation threshold a bit e.g. 60 or so (bear with me), but allow users under 60 and above 10 rep to spend a portion of their rep to leave a comment. This way, to address my two issues above:

  1. I can spend my (perhaps 3-5) rep to comment to get a clarifying answer that I really need. It's painful because it sets me back on my way to unlimited comments, but it's not unthinkable so I can use it if it's vital
  2. I can spend my reputation to comment on their question in order to better answer their question. Maybe the price to comment on asked questions is lower (e.g. 2-3 rep or so?) to further incentivize that action.

I think this is a reasonable solution to the problem. It maintains the incentive that people contribute to SO, it leaves a barrier to spammers (maybe it increases spam comments a bit, but it's not unbounded because spammers will eventually run out of reputation to spend) and it allows people to pay a price for the unusual case where they need to get out a comment. Furthermore, it's not an unheard of action, this would be analogous to how downvoting is a costly action, but not impossible.

I'd love to hear others' thoughts.

#This is a central issue on SO, IMO

I am a low rep user. I'm trying to raise my reputation and to contribute to the site, but I find the 50 rep comment limitation to be incredibly frustrating.

There have been several situations where I run into this. Recently, I discovered an answer to a problem that I have been having for a while, but the solution given had syntax for a different version of the tool I was using (an older one, but I don't know which version). In that scenario all I needed was clarification from the original author. It could have been as simple as "version 2.7.4" and then I could use that for further searches. That clarification could also have been beneficial for future visitors to that thread. But in this case there was absolutely no recourse for getting around commenting short of mining for higher reputation or cheating the system like Mr. Exhibit A in OP's question.

Seeking higher reputation is something of a chicken and egg problem thanks to my relative lack of expertise compared to all you geniuses. Much of my knowledge of programming is coming from SO anyway, so my contributions can easily suffer from a derivative quality that often comes with comments like, "possible duplicate of..." from other people that visit the question.

When trying to answer questions, I've had an inclination to leave comments in order to greater understand the asker's problem, but I can't even ask clarifying questions on unanswered questioners. This further exasperates my inability to contribute such that I can earn the requisite reputation to comment.

To those of you who are beyond me, and for whom this is no longer an issue, I think it's really worth considering the cost that the current comment scheme incurs on well meaning individuals like me. I don't agree with the approach our mystery commenter took to dealing with the issue, but I do agree with their sentiment. I want to be a contributory member, and as I improve my knowledge I intend to share it, but I refuse to believe that this is the optimal solution to balancing the need to prevent bots and spammers while providing a good user experience. Perhaps I'm just not aware of the whole problem.

#My solution# FWIW, my solution is this: raise the comment reputation threshold a bit e.g. 60 or so (bear with me), but allow users under 60 and above 10 rep to spend a portion of their rep to leave a comment. This way, to address my two issues above:

  1. I can spend my (perhaps 3-5) rep to comment to get a clarifying answer that I really need. It's painful because it sets me back on my way to unlimited comments, but it's not unthinkable so I can use it if it's vital
  2. I can spend my reputation to comment on their question in order to better answer their question. Maybe the price to comment on asked questions is lower (e.g. 2-3 rep or so?) to further incentivize that action.

I think this is a reasonable solution to the problem. It maintains the incentive that people contribute to SO, it leaves a barrier to spammers (maybe it increases spam comments a bit, but it's not unbounded because spammers will eventually run out of reputation to spend) and it allows people to pay a price for the unusual case where they need to get out a comment. Furthermore, it's not an unheard of action, this would be analogous to how downvoting is a costly action, but not impossible.

I'd love to hear others' thoughts.

#This is a central issue on SO, IMO

I am a low rep user. I'm trying to raise my reputation and to contribute to the site, but I find the 50 rep comment limitation to be incredibly frustrating.

There have been several situations where I run into this. Recently, I discovered an answer to a problem that I have been having for a while, but the solution given had syntax for a different version of the tool I was using (an older one, but I don't know which version). In that scenario all I needed was clarification from the original author. It could have been as simple as "version 2.7.4" and then I could use that for further searches. That clarification could also have been beneficial for future visitors to that thread. But in this case there was absolutely no recourse for getting around commenting short of mining for higher reputation or cheating the system like Mr. Exhibit A in OP's question.

Seeking higher reputation is something of a chicken and egg problem thanks to my relative lack of expertise compared to all you geniuses people. Much of my knowledge of programming is coming from SO anyway, so my contributions can easily suffer from a derivative quality that often comes with comments like, "possible duplicate of..." from other people that visit the question.

When trying to answer questions, I've had an inclination to leave comments in order to greater understand the asker's problem, but I can't even ask clarifying questions on unanswered questioners. This further exasperates my inability to contribute such that I can earn the requisite reputation to comment.

To those of you who are beyond me, and for whom this is no longer an issue, I think it's really worth considering the cost that the current comment scheme incurs on well meaning individuals like me. I don't agree with the approach our mystery commenter took to dealing with the issue, but I do agree with their sentiment. I want to be a contributory member, and as I improve my knowledge I intend to share it, but I refuse to believe that this is the optimal solution to balancing the need to prevent bots and spammers while providing a good user experience. Perhaps I'm just not aware of the whole problem.

#My solution# FWIW, my solution is this: raise the comment reputation threshold a bit e.g. 60 or so (bear with me), but allow users under 60 and above 10 rep to spend a portion of their rep to leave a comment. This way, to address my two issues above:

  1. I can spend my (perhaps 3-5) rep to comment to get a clarifying answer that I really need. It's painful because it sets me back on my way to unlimited comments, but it's not unthinkable so I can use it if it's vital
  2. I can spend my reputation to comment on their question in order to better answer their question. Maybe the price to comment on asked questions is lower (e.g. 2-3 rep or so?) to further incentivize that action.

I think this is a reasonable solution to the problem. It maintains the incentive that people contribute to SO, it leaves a barrier to spammers (maybe it increases spam comments a bit, but it's not unbounded because spammers will eventually run out of reputation to spend) and it allows people to pay a price for the unusual case where they need to get out a comment. Furthermore, it's not an unheard of action, this would be analogous to how downvoting is a costly action, but not impossible.

I'd love to hear others' thoughts.

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