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Jun 1, 2018 at 13:25 comment added fbueckert We get that you're trying to define a lower bound. What everyone's confused about is why you're dong this. What statistical analysis are you trying to do that you need help with defining a lower bound? Give us some context to work with.
Jun 1, 2018 at 6:03 answer added q-l-p timeline score: -9
Jun 1, 2018 at 4:50 history edited q-l-p CC BY-SA 4.0
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May 31, 2018 at 23:56 history reopened duplode
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May 31, 2018 at 23:14 comment added q-l-p Both the poll and an actual solution would be interesting. I have edited my question again in order to clarify the definition of "decent rep."
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May 31, 2018 at 21:05 comment added fbueckert Okay, but I'm having trouble figuring out what, exactly, you are trying to accomplish here. We have a goal, but we have absolutely no context as to why you're attempting this. Give us something more to work with, instead of a strange poll.
May 31, 2018 at 20:22 comment added q-l-p @fbueckert question edit: "To clarify what I mean by "lower bound" read this extremely awesome answer. In that analysis, Kevin Montrose chose 1000 rep as the lower bound." The problem is that the average rep. on Stack Overflow is 111 and that's in the "noise zone", unfortunately... Even the expression "Stack Overflow community" means different things to different people. Did you know that 93% of SO users don't even have enough rep to downvote?
May 31, 2018 at 20:01 review Reopen votes
May 31, 2018 at 23:56
May 31, 2018 at 18:51 comment added q-l-p @duplode Thanks for editing my post! English is a foreign language to me. Would you believe that my initial word was "worthy"?
May 31, 2018 at 17:06 history closed Servy
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May 31, 2018 at 15:48 comment added duplode @CindyMeister One way of getting an idea of how big that effect is might be looking at what is the minimum rep among users with tag scores in the top x%, for various tags, big and small.
May 31, 2018 at 15:43 answer added duplode timeline score: 0
May 31, 2018 at 15:27 comment added duplode Not only there are four questionable close votes already, but one of them is "Off-topic/Not about Stack Overflow". Is that a joke?
May 31, 2018 at 15:06 answer added Bill the Lizard timeline score: 9
May 31, 2018 at 14:51 comment added BSMP In other words, we don't want users at or above a certain reputation level to be affected too much if the feature is implemented. Like increasing moderation burden? I can't think of another way that higher rep users would be affected by a feature request. If you can tell us what you're trying to avoid that might help others form an opinion of where the line should be.
May 31, 2018 at 14:37 comment added fbueckert After reading your original meta post, I can't help but think you're trying to make a case for bias against new users here, based on whatever reputation level you can make work. If that's not what you're going for, I highly recommend you clarify what, exactly, you're trying to do.
May 31, 2018 at 13:55 history edited duplode
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May 31, 2018 at 13:50 comment added peterh I think the question is good, with the answer: "there is no such point, it is a fuzzy thing" (as in fuzzy logic). I see nothing unclear in the post, there is no reason to close it and no reason to downvote it.
May 31, 2018 at 13:50 comment added duplode (1) I have attempted to rephrase the question. I'm not sure if "seasoned contributor" is actually a great way of expressing what you are looking for. Still, the hope is that more neutral-sounding wording can help stem the bizarrely negative reception of this question. (2) Though I don't think it invalidates the question, @fbueckert has a point in that the ideal cutoff is likely to depend on what you want to find. Cf. Kevin's "freaky outliers", which presumably were outliers in the context of that particular analysis.
May 31, 2018 at 13:46 review Close votes
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May 31, 2018 at 13:46 comment added Servy The only example that you've given is that you want to be able to distinguish a help vampire, but there is no rep cutoff that would help you identify help vampires. There are lots of help vampires with many thousands, or even tens of thousands, of rep. Whether or not you can find any good heuristics for whether someone is a help vampire, I don't know, but it certainly wouldn't be rep (and honestly, probably wouldn't consider rep in the slightest; I know if I was trying to come up with a heuristic I wouldn't look to use it).
May 31, 2018 at 13:45 comment added BSMP If you're talking about the range of reputation, shouldn't the first extreme be a new user who hasn't posted anything and doesn't have an association bonus? A "help vampire" has at least one question post and may even have up votes.
May 31, 2018 at 13:43 history edited duplode CC BY-SA 4.0
An attempt at phrasing the question in a more neutral way.
May 31, 2018 at 13:29 comment added fbueckert I feel like this question has the whole XY problem going on. You're trying to apply an arbitrary cutoff for some mystery stats, but you've provided no use case or purpose for this data. This dramatically limits whatever participation people can do, as they have no idea what's going on.
May 31, 2018 at 11:33 comment added q-l-p Initially, I thought Kevin Montrose chose 1000 rep limit for his stats arbitrarily. But he didn't! I was wrong! I thought he was being subjective and I thought the subjectivity of the community would be better. But now I realize how he got to the "1000 rep as a good earned your stripes cutoff." He was actually right! I'm so glad I realized how stupid I was! :) Now, you might wonder, why would I question a smart person? Because I have to doubt. I have a problem with taking someone else's word. I have OCCT (obsessive compulsive critical thinking:)
May 31, 2018 at 10:56 comment added Cindy Meister I can sort of follow why you ask this, but I think the premise is questionable. How much rep you have can also vary with which tags you're active in. People who work in low traffic tags have a harder time earning rep than those who move in the more "popular" circles. But it doesn't mean their opinion is less worth... (I have a reaction everytime someone says getting 10k or whatever is easy and quick!)
May 31, 2018 at 9:47 history reopened rene
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May 31, 2018 at 9:19 history edited q-l-p CC BY-SA 4.0
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May 31, 2018 at 8:11 history edited Donald Duck CC BY-SA 4.0
There's no need to have "Discussion" in the title, that's what the [discussion] tag is for.
May 31, 2018 at 7:36 comment added Erik A There obviously isn't a reputation border that makes users earn their stripes. You can review this answer, and see that there are >30K users that only ever asked a single question (and a broad one imo). I wouldn't trust them for a single second with their privileges, but luckily, they aren't active. Positive contribution takes priority over rep.
May 31, 2018 at 7:30 comment added q-l-p I edited my post to clarify the "lower bound rep.". I have the feeling people misread the question as "Bellow what rep. should we behead people?" Now the post is too long and people will downvote because wall of text. Jeez...
May 31, 2018 at 7:22 history edited q-l-p CC BY-SA 4.0
Explained the "lower bound".
May 31, 2018 at 7:08 review Reopen votes
May 31, 2018 at 8:10
May 31, 2018 at 6:51 comment added ivarni FWIW I don't think it should be closed, but I also don't see any kind of useful metric coming out of this. We have the privileges ladder for reputation already. I also fail to see why reputation should have any impact on who to take into account for a "feature request" we don't even know what is. High-rep users aren't the only users on the site and not all high-rep users even visit the site regularly.
May 31, 2018 at 6:45 comment added rene While this question is worded as a poll and a bit lop-sided to reputation it can be interesting to learn when we think a user earned their stripes, be it reputation, flags, edits, votes. It might need an edit to turn this question into that type of discussion but let's see if with this comment and a re-open vote it will make it passed the meta-review-clan.
May 31, 2018 at 6:40 history closed user6655984
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May 31, 2018 at 6:39 comment added q-l-p This is meta, right? Opinions are OK here. What are you talking about?
May 31, 2018 at 6:38 comment added Robert Longson and what are polls except ways to elicit people's opinions?
May 31, 2018 at 6:38 review Close votes
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May 31, 2018 at 6:36 comment added q-l-p I have reworded the question. Ridiculously enough, someone proposed to close the question because it's "primarily opinion based". That's the whose idea! It's supposed to be a DISCUSSION, people. Well, actually, this is more like a poll.
May 31, 2018 at 6:30 history edited q-l-p CC BY-SA 4.0
God! I had to reword everything because sensitive snowflakes got offended!
May 31, 2018 at 5:51 comment added q-l-p Those variables are not affected by a proposed scenario. I want to see how a certain feature request affects users but I need a lower bound because if we include all users, the whole analysis gets messed up. There are over 8 million users here and the average rep is about 111. Such numbers mess everything.
May 31, 2018 at 5:41 comment added Suraj Rao Any reason you are considering only reputation and not badges and/or number of flags or any other contributions for statistical data?
May 31, 2018 at 5:32 comment added q-l-p You assume too much. This is has absolutely nothing to do with judging people. This is about statistics. I would appreciate if you can help me reword the question in a way that avoids triggering unjustified guilt.
May 31, 2018 at 5:20 comment added ivarni I try not to judge people by their magical internet points but rather by how they act on the site. Reputation is a terrible metric for just about anything, except maybe seeing how many votes someone has received.
May 31, 2018 at 5:16 history asked q-l-p CC BY-SA 4.0