Timeline for What have I done wrong if OP comments "this entire site is discouraging to newcomers"? Considering rudeness / politeness
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May 27, 2018 at 15:52 | comment | added | user4639281 | @Skipper I'm sorry but that's just wrong. There are bars that are high here, but that is not one of them. We do not expect our askers to be geniuses or experts, nor would that make any sense. We expect our askers to be professional or enthusiast programmers, i.e. they have enough of an understanding to be reasonably able to grasp the answers they are to receive. I don't understand how you think I'm disrespecting other people or their time here, or why you figure that I will never be respected but that seems unnecessarily rude to me. | |
May 27, 2018 at 14:34 | comment | added | Skipper | [...] but this is really subjective and the bar is low. No, it's not. The "bar" is really high and that's the most important foundation of this community. It always works both sides - If You won't respect other people and their time, which they offer here for free, You will never be respected here. | |
May 27, 2018 at 14:28 | comment | added | TylerH | I'm glad this is the accepted answer, despite the inexplicably low score. It is 100% correct. | |
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May 24, 2018 at 18:21 | comment | added | Thomas Flinkow | @TinyGiant no problem - I understood and liked your answer from the beginning (that's why I accepted it so soon). I agree with your points, and I didn't want to say that StackOverflow isn't about writing code at all. The comment was poorly phrased. I wanted to express that StackOverflow isn't for "I have not tried anything, please write code for me" type of questions. | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:19 | comment | added | user4639281 | @Thomas Forgive me for not mentioning earlier that the other person was clearly and unequivocally wrong in how they responded to your comment. There is no justification for such behavior. | |
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May 24, 2018 at 18:12 | comment | added | Mark Amery | FWIW, the seemingly tiny change of comma placement in Revision 2 here changes my reaction to this answer from "I'm pretty sure I know what you're really trying to say, and would agree with it if you'd said it right, but as you've worded it I technically disagree with this answer" to "I am in 100% agreement with what you've written here". +1. | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:11 | comment | added | Thomas Flinkow | @BradLarson thank you for clarifying that. I will refrain from using copy-paste comment templates or at least change it to something less (perceived as) rude. | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:10 | comment | added | Hovercraft Full Of Eels | I still disagree. Looking back at my own and other folks answers, the ones that I think are the best have been much more didactic with more detailed explanation and less code. | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:10 | comment | added | Brad Larson Mod | @ThomasFlinkow - The other person was clearly the one in the wrong here (and they have been dealt with as such). That said, comments stating that Stack Overflow is not a code writing service are often flagged as being rude or abusive and they do have a tendency to start fights in comments. As a result, I tend to find different ways of phrasing this, usually targeted at the specific problems with the question asked. In this case, it was that they needed to narrow this down to a specific aspect of the problem, so I might have asked them to refine what exactly they were looking for. | |
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May 24, 2018 at 18:09 | comment | added | duplode | @HovercraftFullOfEels "Stack Overflow is a code writing service" is a provocative way of making the point being presented here; however, once we look beyond that, I believe Tiny Giant is fundamentally right. | |
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May 24, 2018 at 18:07 | comment | added | Mark Amery | @HovercraftFullOfEels Yeah, I wouldn't say that SO "is" a code-writing service. I'd rather say that we are a code-writing service to the same extent that we are a debugging service; neither quite hits the mark, but there will be questions whose essence is "write me some code to do X" and questions whose essence is "debug this code I wrote", and the fact that a question matches one of those formats does not make it off-topic. As such, pattern-matching that a question matches the "write me some code" format and demanding that it be turned into a debugging question is unhelpful. | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:07 | comment | added | user4639281 | @Mulliganaceous and that is completely erroneous. How-to questions do not require code, and are not inherently off-topic. Suggesting that they are is to suggest that we only accept debugging style questions, which often have very little use to future readers, and often are not very interesting to read or answer. | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:07 | vote | accept | Thomas Flinkow | ||
May 24, 2018 at 18:04 | comment | added | Hovercraft Full Of Eels | I disagree with your premise. Yes, answers often have code in them, but we are primarily a question and answer repository. Code-only answers for example are frowned upon, but text-only answers are not. If code is present in an answer, it should serve to help better explain and perhaps demonstrate the answer, and occasionally it may serve as a copy-paste-solution for the OP, but there is certainly no requirement for this, nor even any inducement for this. | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:03 | comment | added | Thomas Flinkow | Thank you very much for your feedback. I do realize that my comment was not written very well. I will think of another phrasing. I will accept your answer as soon as SO will let me. | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:01 | comment | added | Ṃųỻịgǻňạcểơửṩ | The editor stated that SO not being a "code writing service" indicates that the user is expected to write most of their code (even if erroneous), and not simply ask a coding question and let others code to answer. | |
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