Timeline for What have I done wrong if OP comments "this entire site is discouraging to newcomers"? Considering rudeness / politeness
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Apr 9, 2019 at 12:20 | history | edited | Raedwald | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Specific title. Help searchers.
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May 27, 2018 at 15:29 | history | edited | Peter Mortensen | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Active reading. [<http://stackoverflow.com/legal/trademark-guidance> (the last section)].
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May 27, 2018 at 15:05 | answer | added | Sefe | timeline score: 5 | |
May 27, 2018 at 14:28 | comment | added | tuhi009 | I faced this kind of situation myself. A simple way is to show what you have tried yourself. If there is something wrong with the method, people here will be happy to help. But newcomers forget to post their own "effort". | |
May 27, 2018 at 12:16 | answer | added | iBug | timeline score: 2 | |
May 26, 2018 at 12:07 | comment | added | randomuser | Newcomers are confused and looking for help. They don't know where to go, so they come here. Aside from their questions often ending up marked as a duplicate, off topic or too broad, they're welcomed with a flurry of downvotes. Obviously, one shouldn't react by being rude, but I see where it's coming from. | |
May 26, 2018 at 9:08 | answer | added | Ralphatron | timeline score: -13 | |
May 26, 2018 at 8:26 | comment | added | baao | Whenever someone starts their sentence with "fuck you", you should know that you don't need to take the rest of their writing too serious. Flag it, vote down, vote to close, move on | |
May 26, 2018 at 8:25 | comment | added | Polygnome | This is a typical "Hater gonna hate" situation. Flag it, move on.Nothing good comes from arguing with people who do not want to adhere to our rules/Standards. | |
May 25, 2018 at 10:21 | comment | added | gnat | see also: How to flag/close as “not a code-writing service” | |
May 24, 2018 at 21:34 | comment | added | gnat | @ErikvonAsmuth you forgot to mention that on third comment in the screen shot, a single flag would delete it immediately, due to special feature of the system that handles particular obscenities | |
May 24, 2018 at 21:01 | comment | added | Dip | I think you went head first with what they were doing wrong and it came out a bit aggressive (maybe to them, depends on the individual). Try to state your point/criticism like this.. bring up positive at the beginning, the negative in the middle and end it with another positive. This works for me. | |
May 24, 2018 at 20:55 | comment | added | Thomas Flinkow | @MartijnPieters thank you, it's nice to have clarification from a mod. | |
May 24, 2018 at 20:53 | comment | added | Martijn Pieters Mod | For the record: the user account in question has been deleted by a moderator earlier today, for their persistent and uncalled for rudeness. They had posted all of two questions, and in both cases they chewed out anyone that dared come near their post. At no point was anyone rude to the user. There was nothing you did that provoked them, they brought along their own rudeness. | |
May 24, 2018 at 20:48 | answer | added | Travis J | timeline score: 6 | |
May 24, 2018 at 20:46 | comment | added | Thomas Flinkow | @pushkin thank you also. I flagged and wanted to move on, but the thought that I shouldn't have written the comment or rephrased it didn't leave me :D thankfully, now I know what to do. | |
May 24, 2018 at 20:45 | comment | added | Thomas Flinkow | @halfer thanks for clarifying that. As I tried to express in the question, I wasn't bothered by the comment or anything, but I was wondering about whether their reaction was (at least a bit) justified. Thankfully, the many comments and answers here helped me a lot. | |
May 24, 2018 at 20:43 | comment | added | pushkin | I don't take issue with the question, but I'm saddened when people think they've done something wrong when all they've done is post a perfectly reasonable comment explaining why the question isn't a good fit for the site. Like Erik said, flag and move on. You've done nothing wrong. | |
May 24, 2018 at 20:26 | comment | added | halfer | (Extra information: the question author has deleted their account. Don't worry about it - it happens, and we can't please everyone.) | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:46 | history | edited | Thomas Flinkow | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
deleted 7 characters in body
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May 24, 2018 at 18:44 | comment | added | Mysticial | @ThomasFlinkow The only thing you did wrong here is to let your battery get so low. Go charge it. | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:43 | history | edited | Thomas Flinkow | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
removed their name as I don't want to drag / shame them or anything
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May 24, 2018 at 18:39 | comment | added | Hans Passant | It was a joke to relieve the possible tensions somewhat, criticizing users is fairly risky. Do try to focus on having a minimal angle to arrive at possibly useful Q+A, if there is none (there wasn't) then nothing good can ever happen. | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:35 | comment | added | Thomas Flinkow | @HansPassant not sure I get the "truly believes the stagger" part, may you please explain / rephrase that? But you're right, their previous question was important and explains our relationship and why they reacted harshly, but as you could have seen on the previous question, I did provide them with (what I think) sufficient starting points for how to solve the issue. I split the problem into two different problems and provided links which explained how to solve each... I would certainly have helped them now, if I had a starting point (i.e. their code). | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:30 | comment | added | Hans Passant | His previous question is a lot more relevant to how this went wrong. Something you'd have to see, it truly believes the stagger, but is unfortuantely deleted now. Knowing what you know now, would you still have tried to help him? | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:30 | answer | added | Catija | timeline score: 23 | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:24 | answer | added | duplode | timeline score: 19 | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:16 | comment | added | Patrice | And to me it's also not rude if I may be honest. It's not the nicest possible comment to say what you said, but there is nothing rude in it. It is a curt and to the point message. But not rude | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:14 | comment | added | Patrice | @Thomas sorry if I didn't make it clear: you did nothing wrong here. You didnt put as much fluff as is necessary to defuse something like this... but the argument should be made that you didn't say anything to trigger such a reaction either. We can of course make strides to be more welcoming, and asking for and listening to feedback (like you did here) is a great way to do so. Some OPs will react like this one did to anything that isnt "here is your copypasta answer"... and no amount of wording change will prevent these from blowing up | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:10 | comment | added | Thomas Flinkow | @Patrice thank you for your feedback. I understand now that the wording was not great, and will definitely change it to something better. Other than that, I can only say that English isn't my first language and it was not my intention to come across rude. (To me, it sounded not rude.) | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:08 | comment | added | Patrice | @Thomas your wording was... ok. It definitely wasnt great and did not 'coddle' the OP's feeling. On top of that, a lot of new users join stack with the pre defined mindset we are unwelcoming. So the slightest hint of offense is magnified. If you come to Stack expecting to be insulted or ridiculed..... you will for sure react strongly to an innocent comment that isn't worded with extra fluff | |
May 24, 2018 at 18:07 | vote | accept | Thomas Flinkow | ||
May 24, 2018 at 18:00 | comment | added | Thomas Flinkow | @user2285236 thank you for your feedback, I will consider removing that part from my "template". | |
May 24, 2018 at 17:59 | answer | added | user4639281 | timeline score: -42 | |
May 24, 2018 at 17:55 | comment | added | Hovercraft Full Of Eels | Note that I sometimes post: "This isn't a "please do my work for me" site, which I'm sure wasn't your intention or even a "please point me in the right direction" site, but rather it's a question and answer repository, and part of your problem may be that you are misinterpreting how to use this site and how to best ask questions. Please go through the help center and the How to Ask to learn site best practices." I am hopeful that the "not your intention" softens any perceived irritation. | |
May 24, 2018 at 17:55 | comment | added | Hovercraft Full Of Eels | @ThomasFlinkow: my comment was to the OP to read the site rules and use them to improve his question. Otherwise his question is at great risk for being closed and not answered. | |
May 24, 2018 at 17:53 | comment | added | user2285236 | I do find the "not a code writing service" canned comment a little bit harsh most of the time. It appears under "too broad" questions but those questions are generally just bad because the askers don't know how the site works; not because they want full working code. If you ask them I believe most would be happy with just pointers. That's why accusing them asking for free work might hit a nerve. This doesn't justify their rude behaviour though. | |
May 24, 2018 at 17:53 | answer | added | Makoto | timeline score: 33 | |
May 24, 2018 at 17:53 | comment | added | Thomas Flinkow | @HovercraftFullOfEels :D btw, I saw your comment on the original post, but I don't quite understand it... do you mean this posts is an overreaction? If so, I can understand that, I think so too, but their reaction really kept me busy. I don't want to take part in making SO an unwelcoming place. | |
May 24, 2018 at 17:52 | comment | added | halfer | I don't think this is much to do with the latest Be Nice thing - there have always been people who don't "get" Stack Overflow. Flag and forget. | |
May 24, 2018 at 17:51 | comment | added | halfer | And of course: "don't let the door hit your horse's bum on the way out..." | |
May 24, 2018 at 17:51 | comment | added | Hovercraft Full Of Eels | He forgot ".... and the horse you came in on" | |
May 24, 2018 at 17:51 | comment | added | Paulie_D | I had a similar comment pre-set but I have removed the "code writing service" part of it recently...it can come across as *abrupt" | |
May 24, 2018 at 17:49 | comment | added | Erik A | Just flag the comments and get on with your day... Some people are just rude, and if they keep it up, they get suspended. | |
May 24, 2018 at 17:45 | history | asked | Thomas Flinkow | CC BY-SA 4.0 |