Timeline for How can I make my "too broad" question acceptable?
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May 20, 2018 at 5:58 | comment | added | Lone Learner |
Despite the "not to broad" fraction, 4 of the users closing have quite some reps in the C tag, 2 even have a gold badge. - In my experience so far on Stack Overflow, I have usually found that it is precisely these type of users who are overly enthusiastic in closing perfectly well-formed questions. Why this keeps happening over and over again is something I do not understand. Why does the community err on the side of closing than err on the side of welcoming questions?
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May 20, 2018 at 5:02 | comment | added | iamJP | @Olaf I think you need to consider the human side of the questions. We are not robots or computers. We should be able to ask questions. If the questions don't live up to your personal standards then move on. Eventually they will be deleted if they lack merit. I'm just trying to say give the new guys some slack. It shouldn't be harder to ask a question here than it is to answer one. Bad questions will fade out on their own merit. We are all humans behind this keyboard. | |
May 20, 2018 at 4:34 | comment | added | iamJP | @Olaf Instead of trying to clean up StackOverflow, consider giving questions a day or so before voting them to be deleted. I actually think this should be the norm but what do I know. I don't have your rep. I just think there is a culture of elitism here which makes it hard for new comers to even ask a question. | |
May 20, 2018 at 4:31 | comment | added | iamJP | @Olaf After everything, I don't think you tried to "punish" me. I do feel that you could been nicer at the beginning. You are clearly a nice guy. I know that from talking to you in comments. At the beginning you weren't nice though and you even insinuated I should be fired from my job. Where I work you will be fired for not getting things done on time. We are strapped for resources and time and that is the norm. I do feel that you voted to close my question prematurely. You probably didn't put much thought into it and I understand that. | |
May 18, 2018 at 13:57 | comment | added | cs95 | By the way, I've never refuted points 1 or 2... just saying there's a way to do so without coming across as haughty and/or rude. Especially in light of recent events, we've got to Be Nicer... and I'll take that advice myself; my meta here was quite combative and I'll revise my wording right now. Cheers, | |
May 18, 2018 at 13:45 | comment | added | too honest for this site | @coldspeed: First, I was not sure I am interested answereing someone who went the way of insult. Anyway, I'll keep this strict to this comment. That's all you will get, though. 1) There is a difference between how to treat a Q&A on the site and still provide some advice to the user. I provided quite some information to the user; enough he should be able to solve the problem properly. 2) Q&A are not to help the original user; in certain ways that's a by-effect for the one first asking the question. It's for future readers. 3) There are no seperate rules for low-rep user's questions afaik. | |
May 18, 2018 at 13:09 | comment | added | cs95 | I did admit I do not have any experience in the tags under discussion, and was liable to miss key details that would mean the question was too broad. However, I still don't agree with the methods you used to close this question, this user's comments here would suggest they weren't the best. C'mon man, you're dealing with a 300 rep user, cut them some slack. Not everyone's a pundit with C nor should you expect them to be. You could stand to be a bit more humane when dealing with situations like this. My 2c | |
May 18, 2018 at 12:57 | comment | added | iamJP | I do appreciate your feedback and I also need to get back to work. It does kind of feel like you could of written a valid answer to the question but I will just leave it at thank you for your time. | |
May 18, 2018 at 12:54 | comment | added | too honest for this site | … you still need some fixing for the header file with the registeer definitions. Anonymous unions have proven useful for me here. | |
May 18, 2018 at 12:54 | comment | added | too honest for this site | @iamJP: Well, I won't advice you about anything. I don't think that would be fair, as I still think your question itself is too broad, i.e. should eventually be deleted (that happens wither automatically or manually, depending on certaion factors). As I (and 4 other users with some reputation in C) have been superseeded by a mod, I just don't care about it. There is enough to do elsewhere here and if I didn't care about the site, I had let it gone right after the re-open. Lastly: You should forget about the HAL and writed drivers for the hardware directly. Less trouble. … | |
May 18, 2018 at 12:49 | comment | added | too honest for this site | … are well known to exploit all weeaknesses of the code for optimisations (that's why gcc had a bad reputation with embedded engineers who never really learned the C language properly). | |
May 18, 2018 at 12:49 | comment | added | iamJP | Note that I didn't accept my answer. Someone could still provide a better one. Do you think I should delete my answer? | |
May 18, 2018 at 12:47 | comment | added | too honest for this site | @iamJP: Once more: your answer is a non-answer. So it just can't count as an answer. And I left comments about it and why it still fails. Sorry, I don't think I can make it any more clear. With all due respect, but you should really try to understand the problem with strict aliasing, the standard is clear, but very compacted (and you have to read a lot more of it to fully comprehend the implications - unfortunate truth is a lot of C programmers never did, expecially in bare-metal embedded. It was not much of a problem with ald and commercial compilers, but modern like gcc and clang … | |
May 18, 2018 at 12:44 | comment | added | too honest for this site | … Both, the answer not solving the problem, and it using context not given were reasons I added the info about the self-answer in the question. That because there is no voting ring , but the fact an answer exists could be a red herring to users checking your question due to my close-request. Oh, and I don't have a problem with you asking on meta, nor what you wrote at all. Otherwise I'm pretty sure I hadn't taken the time to explain all this so detailed. It's simply because I think you deserve it and I really feel with you about the original problem. | |
May 18, 2018 at 12:44 | comment | added | iamJP | My answer did feel 'dirty' to me, I originally had a line in the question asking for feedback on my answer but I removed it after I noticed the downvotes. I will have to disagree about the implicit knowledge of my project. This is a library that many other people use and I was looking for advice from those experts. C experts that are familiar and perhaps currently developing on the HAL library. This is why I removed the C and warning tags from the question. | |
May 18, 2018 at 12:40 | comment | added | too honest for this site | As I pointed out in the comments to your answer, silencing the compiler does not mean the issue is fixed. For the current code, it persists, just without notification (which is even worse). But even if had reliably, a question must be written such that it can be answered within site-rules by anyone, not just the question's author. In this case you used implicitly knowledge of the project to have a "solution" for your problem. But that does not mean it fixes the genral problem risen by the question. That's a common problem with most too broad questions which later get a self-answer. … | |
May 18, 2018 at 12:29 | comment | added | iamJP | First I want to say that I don't have any hard feelings for anyone. The question was closed very quickly and with absolutely 0 feedback to me as to why. Then a box pops up that says too broad which made absolutely no sense to me. There were exactly 3 lines that needed to be changed to fix the warning. I commented them clearly in the code. I only included the 2 relevant functions. Also, I did realize you were the one commenting on my answer, and I do appreciate your feedback. | |
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May 18, 2018 at 10:42 | history | answered | too honest for this site | CC BY-SA 4.0 |