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Apr 30, 2018 at 16:52 comment added Joe Friend StaffMod @jpmc26 I agree that on my own posts I need to let the broader community deal with the crap. However, I think that on any other post I, any other employee, or mod should use their power to set and enforce the community standards.
Apr 30, 2018 at 16:33 comment added jpmc26 There is a point at which it becomes blatantly obvious that someone is being unreasonable or intentionally hurtful, and I think SO already does a good job of dealing with that sort of response. But beyond that, cracking down on how people choose their words is counterproductive to listening and to learning. Also, as a person in a position of power in this community, it is appropriate that you be willing to draw the line at what you accept directed toward yourself a little further than others to reduce the risk of unintentionally abusing your power, since people in power are imperfect, too.
Apr 30, 2018 at 16:28 comment added jpmc26 You haven't missed the point, but I don't think you've understood its implications, either. The members of the community aren't fundamentally any better than non-members. Sometimes we perceive something as an attack when it hits on something unpleasant but true, and it's hard to tell the difference when emotions get in the way. We're all going to find ourselves offended by legitimate points sometimes. It is vital to reaching the truth that we accept those negative feelings as something we must deal with personally, rather than something that imposes a requirement on the speaker.
Apr 30, 2018 at 15:35 comment added Joe Friend StaffMod @jpmc26 I didn't mean that everyone who attempts to interact in the community would behave correctly. I simply meant that we, the active participants in the community, can work to be better than the worst elements. This requires us to define and enforce norms of behavior. I could be completely missing your point, but it sounds to me like you're saying people are bad and there's nothing we can do about it.
Apr 30, 2018 at 9:04 comment added jpmc26 "I (or any employee at SO, or any member of our community) shouldn't have to put up with this type of treatment. Our community can be better than that." I think 6000 years of history has done a very good job of showing us that this is idealism that stretches well beyond what's realistically achievable, and we've seen in the past 200 years or so that attempts to impose ideals end horribly. Ultimately, the only way forward through wrongs that seems to actually work is to "pick up your cross and bear it," and to do your imperfect best not to inflict wrongs upon others.
Apr 29, 2018 at 1:19 comment added Davy M @Sudsy1002 My mind subconsciously inserted the 'h' apparently, I fully thought he had written "over the hedge" until I saw your comment and looked back.
Apr 27, 2018 at 19:37 comment added Sudsy1002 "Second, I'm glad gardening works for Shog, it would send me over the edge." - opportunity missed, it should be "it would send me over the hedge"
Apr 27, 2018 at 15:58 comment added Joe Friend StaffMod Aw thanks, @rene. Not sure you've ever been a problem, but I appreciate it anyway.
Apr 27, 2018 at 15:55 comment added rene I'm sorry Joe. You and your team do a wonderful job. I'll be more careful in the future when I express my self.
Apr 27, 2018 at 15:50 history answered Joe FriendStaffMod CC BY-SA 3.0