Timeline for Practical suggestions on welcoming communication
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May 4, 2018 at 15:04 | comment | added | user1228 | I don't have the time or desire to rewrite the same exact comment over and over. Nor can a comment fully cover what's wrong with a question, why the community has decided to moderate it, and how to bring the question back in line with community standards. That's the point of the website. You are not required to drop a bare link. You are not required to create a canned comment containing the link. You are not required to craft a personalized comment referring to the link as a resource to help the poster understand. That's all up to you. Don't blame me for how people link to IDVB. | |
May 4, 2018 at 14:44 | comment | added | Mark Amery | @duplode I agree; I find canned comments impolite in general, and the tone that they typically end up written in to be condescending. I'd far rather receive sharp criticism than a canned comment. A short but relevant discussion, if you haven't already seen it: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/365929/… | |
May 4, 2018 at 13:36 | comment | added | duplode | @MarkAmery Though that site has good advice that can be useful through a supplementary link in a comment (which is roughly what I meant when I said above that "it has its place"), I also dislike canned comments. There is a line of thought according to which canned comments are a good thing because they are the only way to ensure polite and non-snarky comments. I find that stance quite baffling. | |
May 4, 2018 at 13:12 | comment | added | Mark Amery | @Will FWIW, while I grok the intent behind it, I don't like idownvotedbecau.se (or canned comments in general), avoid using it personally, and wish others wouldn't use it either. I find that canned comments almost never apply perfectly to any particular question, and as such I find them generally unhelpful and disrespectful to the person they're addressed to; if we're going to comment explaining downvotes, it should be to point out precisely the problems we see, not to point the user to a vague page of generalities. | |
May 4, 2018 at 11:01 | answer | added | jpp | timeline score: 3 | |
Apr 28, 2018 at 4:39 | comment | added | duplode | See also: How to vote to close questions and be welcoming at the same time? | |
Apr 21, 2018 at 3:05 | review | Close votes | |||
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Apr 15, 2018 at 14:14 | comment | added | duplode | Before the fifth vote comes in: What is the point of closing this question (and no, merely quoting the close reason text won't be enlightening)? What is the gain in doing it? While "too broad" is also questionable, I find "primarily opinion based" just perplexing: this is no more opinion based than any other Meta [discussion] about communication styles in Stack Overflow; also, the "Which writing tricks and techniques you find helpful [...]" qualifier should be enough to discourage arbitrary answers (i.e. those not grounded on, at a minimum, relevant argumentation or anecdotal evidence). | |
Apr 15, 2018 at 13:31 | comment | added | Andrew T. | @jpp apparently XKCD also thought of that :) | |
Apr 13, 2018 at 15:28 | answer | added | duplode | timeline score: 9 | |
Apr 13, 2018 at 9:48 | comment | added | jpp | Before commenting, my rule of thumb is: If in doubt, say it out aloud. In almost all situations, you will realise whether the tone and content are suitable. Note: this doesn't mean the result is the best way, but at least you avoid being rude. | |
Apr 13, 2018 at 9:07 | comment | added | rene | SOCVR maintains lists of autocomments here | |
Apr 13, 2018 at 7:37 | answer | added | CodeCaster | timeline score: -2 | |
Apr 13, 2018 at 7:10 | history | edited | duplode | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
clarifying the intent of this question; replacing [behavior] with [etiquette] (though there is probably a better tag I'm missing)
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Apr 13, 2018 at 1:15 | comment | added | duplode | @HansPassant "Treating it like it invaded his cubicle and is holding him hostage against his will. Tends to be accurate for the way somebody got into trouble." -- Nice way of putting it! I will experiment with using "the problem" instead of "your problem" in my answers. | |
Apr 13, 2018 at 0:05 | comment | added | Hans Passant | A simple trick I learned over the years is to disassociate the code from the programmer that posted the question. Treating it like it invaded his cubicle and is holding him hostage against his will. Tends to be accurate for the way somebody got into trouble. So for example instead of saying "your code is wrong", say "the snippet has a bug". Big, big difference. | |
Apr 12, 2018 at 21:07 | comment | added | duplode | @Nisarg I see two other possibilities: "This sounds too prescriptive" (which wasn't my intention at all - I welcome edits to make it clear it's not about prescription or enforcement) and "there is too much concern about communication styles in Meta lately" (which would be a fair reason for downvote, even though I of course disagree). | |
Apr 12, 2018 at 20:44 | comment | added | duplode | @Will That is a different take on the matter (and somewhat more narrowly applicable); in any case, it also has its place. | |
Apr 12, 2018 at 17:52 | answer | added | Nisarg Shah | timeline score: -1 | |
Apr 12, 2018 at 17:38 | review | Close votes | |||
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Apr 12, 2018 at 17:19 | comment | added | Makoto | @Nisarg: "This is pointless" falls under "not useful" for my purposes... | |
Apr 12, 2018 at 17:17 | comment | added | Servy | @Nisarg "This question does not show any research effort; it is unclear or not useful" | |
Apr 12, 2018 at 17:14 | comment | added | Nisarg Shah | What do the downvotes on the question mean? We don't want to be nice, Don't tell me how to be nice or This is pointless? | |
Apr 12, 2018 at 16:18 | comment | added | Makoto | @Will: In reference to a comment I just made on that answer, this feels like it's a lot closer to the right of the spectrum. | |
Apr 12, 2018 at 16:15 | comment | added | user1228 | I made a playbook over at idownvotedbecau.se, and take pull requests on the reg. | |
S Apr 12, 2018 at 16:06 | answer | added | duplode | timeline score: 10 | |
S Apr 12, 2018 at 16:06 | history | asked | duplode | CC BY-SA 3.0 |