Timeline for ♦ moderation queue priority concerns
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Mar 4, 2018 at 2:56 | comment | added | TylerH | I edited it like 2 days later... one bump to the main page of Meta is not really a concern. Even on main where one should be more judicious of their edits, it's not a problem to bump an old question with an edit because no question lasts more than a few minutes tops on the home page due to the vast amount of questions being asked. Not to mention the numerous ways to custom-filter the questions page based on votes, activity, post date, favorite tags, etc. | |
Mar 4, 2018 at 1:29 | comment | added | Blue | @TylerH I'm not being hostile at all: I'm just trying to state facts: One thing your forgetting about small edits is the bump to the front page. That is another reason why ALL users are discouraged from small edits. I thought your edit, while positive, didn't warrant an edit (Probably overzealous to roll is back, but was trying to make a point) | |
Mar 3, 2018 at 23:59 | comment | added | TylerH | @FrankerZ Actually Stack Overflow encourages all edits that improve posts. I'm not "worried", I just saw problems with your post and fixed them. Why are you being so hostile to a simple edit that doesn't affect your question in any substantive way? Stack Overflow only discourages sub-2k users from making partial/minor edits because it clogs up the review queue and prevents others from potentially suggesting more comprehensive edits until the partial edits are handled. The bottom line is your post had problems when I viewed it, so I made changes to fix them for me & anyone else w/ similar probs | |
Mar 3, 2018 at 16:06 | comment | added | Blue | @TylerH Why are you so worried about an apostrophe? Stack discourages small edits. | |
Mar 3, 2018 at 14:53 | comment | added | TylerH | Aside from that, you also shouldn't roll back the edit because doing so reintroduces an erroneous possessive apostrophe. | |
Mar 3, 2018 at 14:53 | history | rollback | TylerH |
Rollback to Revision 3
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Mar 3, 2018 at 14:52 | comment | added | TylerH | Imgur is blocked in some places where stack.imgur is not, and also it's standard practice for off-site images to be moved on-site to prevent linkrot, which covers not only sites going down, but people removing images they uploaded later. | |
Mar 3, 2018 at 0:30 | history | rollback | Blue |
Rollback to Revision 2
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Mar 3, 2018 at 0:30 | comment | added | Blue | @TylerH What's your reasoning for migrating the images? It's perfectly fine to leave them on imgur. | |
Mar 2, 2018 at 17:26 | answer | added | George StockerMod | timeline score: 7 | |
Mar 2, 2018 at 14:55 | comment | added | Lundin | Maybe SO should consider taking on more than 3 diamond mods for the next election? Most of the time, all of the top candidates in the elections are excellent mod-material. | |
Mar 1, 2018 at 22:41 | history | edited | TylerH | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
Migrated images to stack.imgur domain and also removed an erroneous possessive apostrophe
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Mar 1, 2018 at 7:26 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | @Magisch Awww, If the OP had posted this one day before, you could have shown the one from Jan 9th. (That said the particular Jan 10th one is a bit different, and hence it has not been handled) | |
Feb 28, 2018 at 12:26 | comment | added | Magisch | @DavidG I see your flag from Jan 21 and raise you mine from Jan 10: i.sstatic.net/EVTPN.png | |
Feb 28, 2018 at 12:22 | comment | added | Magisch | I suspect I'm partially to blame for this diluting of the custom flag pool, I got 220 pending custom flags right now, some from the beginning of january still. | |
Feb 28, 2018 at 10:03 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | And also, CMs have started to handle a few of the heavier flags. So we might soon get it under control, or as Brad suggests, we might hold an election. | |
Feb 28, 2018 at 10:02 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | @DavidG The flag queue was 0 in January 2018, after a complete cleanup for the New Year. After that a few of us became a bit held up, which implies that the other mods are working overtime. Along with that, there's nearly 200 flags on voting irregularities, each of which take quite a long time to handle. That's another reason why we are falling behind. We do have enough mods to deal with them, but the issue at hand is, few of us have become busy at the same time. | |
Feb 28, 2018 at 9:55 | comment | added | DavidG | @BhargavRao If flags are taking such a long time to handle, is it time to ask if we have enough mods to deal with them? It's either that or impove the mod tools somehow. | |
Feb 28, 2018 at 9:19 | comment | added | poke | @BhargavRao I do disagree with that sentiment a bit. I do believe that improving the tools for that small subset of users would help to improve the overall experience for everyone. But I understand that there is enough other stuff to work on that would be directly more useful for those millions. | |
Feb 28, 2018 at 8:57 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | Well, @poke, I'd not push the SE devs into it. If they spend their time improving the tools that the millions of users use rather than just the 25 of us, it would certainly be more useful. (The amount of work that SE, especially the CM team, has put in to help moderators is quite a lot, and we are very thankful for that. This is just a momentary phase when most of the mods have become busy IRL, soon the queue will get back to normal) | |
Feb 28, 2018 at 8:50 | comment | added | poke | @BhargavRao I think the viable solution for this would be to (finally) invest a bit more into improving the moderation tools. It’s a bit frustrating when issues with moderation always come down to the fact that the tooling simply doesn’t do enough to aid the mods with their tasks. I’m thinking about having more context information in general but also some (ideally automated) triage functionality for flags. | |
Feb 28, 2018 at 8:36 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | Yep, that's true @poke. I would be very happy if someone proposes a viable solution to this issue. However, refraining from flagging kinda defeats the purpose of flagging. I usually filter on a few keywords like "heated", "bounty", "immediate", etc and try to handle them at first (different moderators have different styles of handling). So being more clear that the situation is time sensitive does help a tiny bit, as opposed to not flagging. | |
Feb 28, 2018 at 8:28 | comment | added | poke | @BhargavRao That is nice and all but in all honesty, some custom flags actually are time sensitive. So if there is no proposed solution how the situation can be improved in the future, then being a bit more selective about what to flag is kind of the only option here. | |
Feb 28, 2018 at 4:50 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | @StephenRauch Please don't do that. Don't refrain from flagging if you find anything that needs our attention. We will get it to it eventually. | |
Feb 28, 2018 at 3:47 | comment | added | Stephen Rauch Mod | @DavidG, I will see your Jan 23rd and raise it with a Jan 17th. I have cut back on my moderator flagging as I don't want to be part of the problem. | |
Feb 28, 2018 at 0:42 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao Mod | How long before the guy with flags from Mar 2017 turns up? :D | |
Feb 28, 2018 at 0:26 | comment | added | DavidG | I see your flags from Jan 30 and raise you mine from Jan 23! | |
Feb 27, 2018 at 22:17 | comment | added | halfer | Shoot this down if it's an unworkable idea, but could we allow 10K+ users the facility to specify that their custom flag is a quick one? That would be a sortable field to allow mods to get rid of easy ones. I don't have a strong need to have my flags acted on quickly, but if there was a general desire to get a higher throughput, it might be worth considering. I appreciate it is open to abuse, but I hope the rep restriction would help with that. | |
Feb 27, 2018 at 21:04 | history | edited | animusonStaffMod | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Feb 27, 2018 at 18:44 | answer | added | Brad LarsonMod | timeline score: 46 | |
Feb 27, 2018 at 18:04 | comment | added | Nisse Engström | @FrankerZ: As I understand it, the standard flags can be handled quickly in bulk. It's the custom flags that take "30 minutes". | |
Feb 27, 2018 at 17:35 | comment | added | Blue | @JonClements An hour doesn't seem like hardly enough time for 4 reviewers to cast "Recommend Deletion" votes in the queue. | |
Feb 27, 2018 at 17:27 | comment | added | Blue | @MichaelMyers So there is some sort of prioritization there. Are these NAA flags mixed in with the custom flags, or is it a seperate queue all together? I'm asking: Because I feel like I'd rather have a moderator spend 5 minutes on the custom flag queue, than 30 minutes on the NAA queue. 25+ days is a bit unacceptable for handling flags. | |
Feb 27, 2018 at 17:21 | comment | added | Jon Clements Mod | The mod queue (deliberately on SO at least) - doesn't expose the mods to the NAA/VLQ queue without an hour delay. If we then clean 'em up by delete votes so be it? | |
Feb 27, 2018 at 17:21 | comment | added | Michael Myers Mod | The queue prioritizes posts with multiple flags. That non-answer was flagged by five other people and thus probably reached the top of the queue. Your custom flags haven't even sniffed the first page of the queue yet. | |
Feb 27, 2018 at 17:21 | comment | added | yivi | @animuson Out of ignorance: aren't the custom flags the more relevant things for mods to handle? Many of the other flags and votes can be dealt with by the community, can't they? Or am I completely misreading mod duties? | |
Feb 27, 2018 at 17:16 | comment | added | animuson StaffMod | There isn't much of a priority system other than spam/abusive flags bumping to the top. Moderators will usually just work on particular flags that they feel they have the time to handle. Back when I was a mod, I would generally avoid custom flags unless I knew I had a good chunk of time to really focus on them. They can be very draining. | |
Feb 27, 2018 at 17:10 | history | asked | Blue | CC BY-SA 3.0 |