Timeline for How to deal with specific questions that have a generic but non-obvious solution?
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Jan 19, 2018 at 22:46 | comment | added | roganjosh | In other words, "the code speaks for itself" and the text around it is fluid if it's a true MCVE. | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 22:33 | comment | added | roganjosh | JohnBollinger actually, your last comment to me, combined with @TinyGiant 's, made me look at MCVEs differently. I could easily reproduce the issue in the OP's question. | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 22:25 | comment | added | roganjosh | @Servy my very first comment on this post possibly illustrates my point better. You're active on Python, you have surely seen this kind of situation. | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 22:25 | comment | added | John Bollinger | @Servy, I'm not sure what the disconnect here is. If the question indeed does not contain an MCVE, as I agree may be the case in a question such as you describe, then this answer says the first thing to do is insist that the OP provide one. Then, after the OP has done so, the conclusion in my comment follows. | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 22:19 | comment | added | roganjosh | @Servy there's not tonnes of irrelevant code. I'd have voted to close if that was the case and never asked this question. | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 22:19 | comment | added | Servy | @JohnBollinger I was referring to just that comment. Saying, " a satisfactory MCVE having been provided by the OP [...]" The whole reason for the edit is to remove a whole bunch of irrelevant code/information obscuring the problem. The existence of that content means that, at least before the edit, there isn't an MCVE. | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 22:14 | comment | added | John Bollinger | Yes, @Servy. That's why the very first point in this answer is to "insist on such questions providing an MCVE." My commentary here is predicated on this procedure in fact being followed. | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 22:11 | comment | added | Servy | @JohnBollinger If a question is filled with tons of code that's irrelevant to the problem, particularly when its to the point that it's apparently obscuring the issue to most readers, then they don't have an MCVE, because their example isn't minimal. People always seem to forget that one when referring to MCVE... | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 20:24 | vote | accept | roganjosh | ||
Jan 19, 2018 at 20:24 | comment | added | roganjosh | The pair of you are absolutely correct.Thank you, this closes the issue in my mind. | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 20:18 | comment | added | John Bollinger | @roganjosh, a satisfactory MCVE having been provided by the OP, I'm having trouble imagining how you could make an edit that retains the MCVE and is consistent with it, yet fundamentally changes the nature of the question. | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 20:17 | comment | added | user4639281 | @roganjosh as per changing the question (if it is not a dupe), you aren't actually changing the question at all, you're just clarifying the actual question. I have performed many a "chainsaw" edit (edits which replace most or all of the original content of the post with clarified content). It's not so much how much of the original words and code remain, but whether or not the intent of the question (not the OP mind you) is the same. | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 20:14 | comment | added | user4639281 | @roganjosh If the product of the question after it is edited to be clarified would be the same question as the dupe target, then it's a duplicate. Close it as such and move on. | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 20:12 | comment | added | roganjosh | @TinyGiant I'm not clear on this here. I have edited question titles to make them more appropriate to the issue the issue the OP is facing. But in my extreme example, I'd fundamentally change the whole question to fit what the actual problem is (in my mind). I'm not sure I'm ok with that; I don't know where the line sits on edits like that. Is there a meta post for this? | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 20:06 | comment | added | roganjosh | @TinyGiant I'd see that as a pretty substantial change. I could just edit that question into a dupe of my choosing. Is that kind of edit acceptable? | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 20:03 | comment | added | user4639281 | @roganjosh so you would edit it to clarify the problem, and remove anything that is not relevant to the problem, then edit the title to what it should be. | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 19:40 | comment | added | roganjosh | My question is a bit of a moving target because it's a situation that keeps cropping up again in different forms. A deliberately extreme case: "SQL query taking too long" as a question title. When you look at an MCVE you realise it has nothing to do with the query but how they process the query results. There can be no canonical answer to that question title... the OP mis-attributed the issue and there's a basic solution, which has nothing to do with their question title. | |
Jan 19, 2018 at 15:41 | history | answered | John Bollinger | CC BY-SA 3.0 |