Timeline for Should users unfamiliar with a topic wait before voting to close?
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Oct 27, 2017 at 5:38 | comment | added | Cerbrus | @BoltClock: Agreed. My point is more that the whole reopen>close process is a waste of time, without mod intervention. | |
Oct 27, 2017 at 4:34 | comment | added | BoltClock Mod | Close reasons are meant to provide guidance to the asker. I don't think that a question should be kept closed with the wrong reason, because then the asker will be given the false impression that the problem with their question is X and not Y. We already have enough of a problem with users not figuring out why their posts were downvoted because the tooltip is so vague and undiscoverable. I don't know of any good ways to remedy incorrect close reasons other than by getting a diamond mod such as myself to do it with binding votes, though. | |
Oct 26, 2017 at 15:17 | comment | added | Modus Tollens | @abraham Or they could try to become a contributing member of the community by reading guidelines like the help center and how-to-ask. | |
Oct 26, 2017 at 15:16 | comment | added | Nicol Bolas | @abraham: Prove it. Go find good questions that were "shutdown" that should not have been. Questions where an expert would not have closed it, but a lay person would have. Because the example here was clearly off-topic. | |
Oct 26, 2017 at 15:15 | comment | added | Servy | @abraham I don't need to be a pilot to tell you that a question about how to add an app to an app store isn't an on topic question on an aviation site. I would feel entirely comfortable closing such a question as off topic, even if I wouldn't have the technical expertise to answer any aviation related questions that would actually be on topic for such a site. | |
Oct 26, 2017 at 15:10 | comment | added | Martin James | The question is not about programming. software development in general or the tools used. Questions about pizza or beer are more on-topic for programmers than that question. | |
Oct 26, 2017 at 15:06 | comment | added | Cerbrus | @abraham on the other hand, there are plenty of people with a driber’s license that really shouldn’t own a car. | |
Oct 26, 2017 at 15:04 | comment | added | Nicol Bolas | @Prisoner: "And neither your answer, nor any of the commentary, discuss the issue of people who do not understand the topic of the question being able to close a perfectly reasonable question" But your example doesn't show this either, since this is very much not a programming question. Garbage in, garbage out. If you want to have a discussion about that, then present an example that actually exemplifies that. | |
Oct 26, 2017 at 15:01 | comment | added | Modus Tollens | @abraham How can it be exclusionary and anti-community when the community decided certain questions to be off-topic? | |
Oct 26, 2017 at 15:01 | comment | added | Cerbrus | @abraham: If a question should be closed, don't re-open it just to change the close-vote. It's a waste of time. I'm not saying "What matters is that all questions are closed." | |
Oct 26, 2017 at 15:00 | history | edited | Cerbrus | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Oct 26, 2017 at 14:58 | comment | added | Cerbrus | @Prisoner: I'm not a pilot, but I can tell when someone "flying" a plane is doing a bad job. You don't need to be familiar with a subject to recognize it's off-topic. | |
Oct 26, 2017 at 14:58 | comment | added | abraham |
They certainly shouldn't be re-opened, even if the applied closure reason isn't the best fit. What matters is that the question is closed. that's a very exclusionary and anti-community stance. No wonder less experienced developers don't like SO.
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Oct 26, 2017 at 14:56 | comment | added | Prisoner | And neither your answer, nor any of the commentary, discuss the issue of people who do not understand the topic of the question being able to close a perfectly reasonable question - even if you disagree that this question passes the "reasonableness" test. | |
Oct 26, 2017 at 14:55 | comment | added | Prisoner | I used the term broadly. I could have said "downvoters", but found that harsh. And I disagree - the question was not too broad, it asked a specific question in context. It did not lack research - Google's documentation does touch on the issue, but not directly. It was directly on the topic of the tools one uses when developing for the Google Assistant. I didn't want it re-opened to close it. I wanted it re-opened to answer it. As I said in my question here. | |
Oct 26, 2017 at 14:42 | history | answered | Cerbrus | CC BY-SA 3.0 |