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IIt has 37 up-votes and just 5 down-votes. I think that it is a clear idea that community think that "Sum" tag is useless.

Not even close. We have a lot more than 42 users on Stack Overflow.

If there is not clear community support for burnination of a tag, then the tag remains. Apathy is never interpreted as support for a proposal, and the fact that a handful of people on Meta have upvoted a burnination proposal does not a consensus make.

There are people on Meta who will upvote virtually any burnination proposal simply because they enjoy burninating tags and/or because they don't personally see any merit in the tag. What that leaves out are the experts who are down "in the trenches", so to speak, providing answers to questions with that tag. If we don't ever hear from them, it's very difficult to know how that tag adds value and whether it should be kept.

This is why we have a very specific protocol that we follow when burninating tags, developed over time with lessons learned from past mistakes. In particular, it requires that a burnination proposal gathers some obvious support from Meta regulars, and then requires that the proposal be with the hopes of the larger community seeing it and having the chance to weigh in.

This process isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination. There are still tons of posts that people miss. But it works a whole heck of a lot better than vigilante mass-retagging by users on Meta who don't have anything better to do.

So, the point of asking questions like "Do we need this tag?" is to present your opinion that the tag is not useful and give the opportunity for the community to chime in with their thoughts. There's no guarantee that the proposal will go anywhere from there or that any action will be taken. It's just like a feature request: some get implemented, and some don't. Some may get implemented months or years later.

If you don't see the merit in it, then don't bother to make any more proposals. If you still want to do so, then go ahead and do so. We do get around to acting on the widely-supported burnination requests eventually; several have been carried out just in the last couple of weeksseveral have been carried out just in the last couple of weeks.

However, just because you are frustrated with the rate of progress, it is not acceptable for you to go and manually burninate a tag without following the established procedure. From my viewpoint, this is becoming distressingly common, and it needs to stop. There was a burnination proposal posted here on Meta a couple of days ago. It lasted less than an hour before someone went through and burninated the tag from all hundred or so questions. That's not okay, and I consider it to be an abuse of the system on multiple levels.

There are plenty of other productive ways to contribute to the site.

IIt has 37 up-votes and just 5 down-votes. I think that it is a clear idea that community think that "Sum" tag is useless.

Not even close. We have a lot more than 42 users on Stack Overflow.

If there is not clear community support for burnination of a tag, then the tag remains. Apathy is never interpreted as support for a proposal, and the fact that a handful of people on Meta have upvoted a burnination proposal does not a consensus make.

There are people on Meta who will upvote virtually any burnination proposal simply because they enjoy burninating tags and/or because they don't personally see any merit in the tag. What that leaves out are the experts who are down "in the trenches", so to speak, providing answers to questions with that tag. If we don't ever hear from them, it's very difficult to know how that tag adds value and whether it should be kept.

This is why we have a very specific protocol that we follow when burninating tags, developed over time with lessons learned from past mistakes. In particular, it requires that a burnination proposal gathers some obvious support from Meta regulars, and then requires that the proposal be with the hopes of the larger community seeing it and having the chance to weigh in.

This process isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination. There are still tons of posts that people miss. But it works a whole heck of a lot better than vigilante mass-retagging by users on Meta who don't have anything better to do.

So, the point of asking questions like "Do we need this tag?" is to present your opinion that the tag is not useful and give the opportunity for the community to chime in with their thoughts. There's no guarantee that the proposal will go anywhere from there or that any action will be taken. It's just like a feature request: some get implemented, and some don't. Some may get implemented months or years later.

If you don't see the merit in it, then don't bother to make any more proposals. If you still want to do so, then go ahead and do so. We do get around to acting on the widely-supported burnination requests eventually; several have been carried out just in the last couple of weeks.

However, just because you are frustrated with the rate of progress, it is not acceptable for you to go and manually burninate a tag without following the established procedure. From my viewpoint, this is becoming distressingly common, and it needs to stop. There was a burnination proposal posted here on Meta a couple of days ago. It lasted less than an hour before someone went through and burninated the tag from all hundred or so questions. That's not okay, and I consider it to be an abuse of the system on multiple levels.

There are plenty of other productive ways to contribute to the site.

IIt has 37 up-votes and just 5 down-votes. I think that it is a clear idea that community think that "Sum" tag is useless.

Not even close. We have a lot more than 42 users on Stack Overflow.

If there is not clear community support for burnination of a tag, then the tag remains. Apathy is never interpreted as support for a proposal, and the fact that a handful of people on Meta have upvoted a burnination proposal does not a consensus make.

There are people on Meta who will upvote virtually any burnination proposal simply because they enjoy burninating tags and/or because they don't personally see any merit in the tag. What that leaves out are the experts who are down "in the trenches", so to speak, providing answers to questions with that tag. If we don't ever hear from them, it's very difficult to know how that tag adds value and whether it should be kept.

This is why we have a very specific protocol that we follow when burninating tags, developed over time with lessons learned from past mistakes. In particular, it requires that a burnination proposal gathers some obvious support from Meta regulars, and then requires that the proposal be with the hopes of the larger community seeing it and having the chance to weigh in.

This process isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination. There are still tons of posts that people miss. But it works a whole heck of a lot better than vigilante mass-retagging by users on Meta who don't have anything better to do.

So, the point of asking questions like "Do we need this tag?" is to present your opinion that the tag is not useful and give the opportunity for the community to chime in with their thoughts. There's no guarantee that the proposal will go anywhere from there or that any action will be taken. It's just like a feature request: some get implemented, and some don't. Some may get implemented months or years later.

If you don't see the merit in it, then don't bother to make any more proposals. If you still want to do so, then go ahead and do so. We do get around to acting on the widely-supported burnination requests eventually; several have been carried out just in the last couple of weeks.

However, just because you are frustrated with the rate of progress, it is not acceptable for you to go and manually burninate a tag without following the established procedure. From my viewpoint, this is becoming distressingly common, and it needs to stop. There was a burnination proposal posted here on Meta a couple of days ago. It lasted less than an hour before someone went through and burninated the tag from all hundred or so questions. That's not okay, and I consider it to be an abuse of the system on multiple levels.

There are plenty of other productive ways to contribute to the site.

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Cody Gray Mod
  • 244.2k
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IIt has 37 up-votes and just 5 down-votes. I think that it is a clear idea that community think that "Sum" tag is useless.

Not even close. We have a lot more than 42 users on Stack Overflow.

If there is not clear community support for burnination of a tag, then the tag remains. Apathy is never interpreted as support for a proposal, and the fact that a handful of people on Meta have upvoted a burnination proposal does not a consensus make.

There are people on Meta who will upvote virtually any burnination proposal simply because they enjoy burninating tags and/or because they don't personally see any merit in the tag. What that leaves out are the experts who are down "in the trenches", so to speak, providing answers to questions with that tag. If we don't ever hear from them, it's very difficult to know how that tag adds value and whether it should be kept.

This is why we have a very specific protocol that we follow when burninating tags, developed over time with lessons learned from past mistakes. In particular, it requires that a burnination proposal gathers some obvious support from Meta regulars, and then requires that the proposal be with the hopes of the larger community seeing it and having the chance to weigh in.

This process isn't perfect by any stretch of the imagination. There are still tons of posts that people miss. But it works a whole heck of a lot better than vigilante mass-retagging by users on Meta who don't have anything better to do.

So, the point of asking questions like "Do we need this tag?" is to present your opinion that the tag is not useful and give the opportunity for the community to chime in with their thoughts. There's no guarantee that the proposal will go anywhere from there or that any action will be taken. It's just like a feature request: some get implemented, and some don't. Some may get implemented months or years later.

If you don't see the merit in it, then don't bother to make any more proposals. If you still want to do so, then go ahead and do so. We do get around to acting on the widely-supported burnination requests eventually; several have been carried out just in the last couple of weeks.

However, just because you are frustrated with the rate of progress, it is not acceptable for you to go and manually burninate a tag without following the established procedure. From my viewpoint, this is becoming distressingly common, and it needs to stop. There was a burnination proposal posted here on Meta a couple of days ago. It lasted less than an hour before someone went through and burninated the tag from all hundred or so questions. That's not okay, and I consider it to be an abuse of the system on multiple levels.

There are plenty of other productive ways to contribute to the site.