Timeline for Learning material advised on a SO blog post: does SO back this learning material?
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Sep 18, 2017 at 22:04 | comment | added | Oleg | @Braiam The post you linked to is about money. If you don't know what profit means I highly doubt that you are an Economist. I'm going to take a look at your actions, and unless you will surprise me and actually say something sensible in your next comment I'm going to stop conversing with you. | |
Sep 18, 2017 at 21:52 | comment | added | Braiam | Well, I'm not talking about a "company" I'm talking about business. People do business to get profit. I'm in a business trying to make you see your wrongs because it profits me in the way of preventing more misconceptions to spread. I'm a economist first, so I use profit in the way of economy does, a way to include all the possible benefits that motivates people to do stuff. | |
Sep 18, 2017 at 21:41 | comment | added | Oleg | @Braiam People have different values and goals for some there are more important things than money. I'm not confusing anything it's in the freaking name! Non-profit vs For-profit. The word profit can mean different things in the context of a company it means only one thing - excess revenue i.e. making money. | |
Sep 18, 2017 at 21:14 | comment | added | Braiam | @Oleg Why would anyone create a business if not to get profit? Also, you are confusing profit with monetary benefits. Profit can be anything that is of value for its owner, not just money. | |
Sep 18, 2017 at 20:52 | history | edited | Oleg | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Sep 18, 2017 at 20:33 | comment | added | Oleg | @Braiam That's not a fact and most certainly not fun. First of all there are non-profits, I would be much happier to contribute content to a company like Wikipedia and not SO. Also the co-founders in many cases do want to make something that will add value to the world, when a company reaches SO size then it's all about the money. | |
Sep 18, 2017 at 13:21 | comment | added | Braiam | Fun fact: the ultimate objective of any business is to generate profit for its owner. If it doesn't produce that, the owner would have no interest into starting it in the first place. | |
Sep 18, 2017 at 8:30 | comment | added | Oleg | @NathanTuggy I addressed most of your points with an edit to the answer. I don't know what my dogma is, saying that for profit companies are in it for the profit is not very dogmatic. For your scenario to seem plausible enough you need to really stretch those words, stretched to that level they don't mean anything anymore. | |
Sep 18, 2017 at 8:23 | history | edited | Oleg | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Sep 18, 2017 at 6:29 | comment | added | Nathan Tuggy | Finally, I put "(say)" because I was pretty sure there were also other possibilities, although the one I gave seems plausible enough to me. Since I now know from first-hand experience that you have made dogmatic assertions that are verifiably wrong, I think my last point stands pretty strongly: back up your assertions before confidently making them! | |
Sep 18, 2017 at 6:25 | comment | added | Nathan Tuggy | So this answer is misleading because it asserts, in effect, that SE is so hyper-focused on micro-optimizing its revenue stream that it is willing to sacrifice long-term site viability for short-term funds. This is clearly wrong. Of course, it is debatable just how closely SE's idea of site viability matches the idea highly-involved users have of site quality. But there is certainly a reasonably strong historical and continuing linkage between those. So SE then is committed on business grounds to maximizing something closely akin to site quality. How deeply unethical and untrustworthy of them! | |
Sep 18, 2017 at 6:22 | comment | added | Nathan Tuggy | SE doesn't have ads everywhere because the ads wouldn't be adequately targeted and would drive away users, crippling those sites before the traffic hits critical mass. And they rely on the network as a whole to drive diversified traffic to the few sites that do have ads. So SE does have business considerations in mind when setting up its ads. But that's not something I denied. What I said was that they take the long view in monetizing. This is in sharp contrast to your assertion that the very day [python]-only restrictions became profitable, they would embrace them. | |
Sep 18, 2017 at 6:10 | comment | added | Oleg | Misleading?? No. Hyperbole? Sure that was oversimplified and exaggerated but if you think the VCs that own Stack Overflow actually care about creating a Q&A repository then... continue living in your beautiful world. Why do you think they don't have adds everywhere? Come on, try to answer that with anything else then 'business decision'. "That's an apple!" is also an assertion, proving to someone that claims an apple is an orange is not something I'm interested in doing. You had to prefix your alternative with '(say)' because you know it's bollocks and you can't fathom a good one. @NathanTuggy | |
Sep 18, 2017 at 4:26 | comment | added | Nathan Tuggy | Stack Exchange quite obviously takes the long view in monetizing its sites. Witness, oh I don't know, almost every one of the 160+ websites it runs, many of which are years old and still have no ads. So your final paragraph is certainly misleading hyperbole at best. The assertion that these must inevitably be actual paid-for ads, rather than (say) somewhat clumsy attempts at expanding SO's potential userbase and reducing the number of worthless utterly noobish questions being asked, needs to be supported as well. At present that's just speculation. | |
Sep 17, 2017 at 22:57 | history | edited | Braiam | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Sep 17, 2017 at 21:55 | history | answered | Oleg | CC BY-SA 3.0 |