Timeline for Reducing the number of low quality posts without excluding potential newcomers to our community
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Aug 26, 2017 at 9:10 | history | undeleted | gnat | ||
Aug 26, 2017 at 9:10 | history | edited | gnat | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Aug 25, 2017 at 21:55 | history | edited | gnat | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Aug 25, 2017 at 21:55 | history | deleted | gnat | via Vote | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 15:38 | comment | added | gnat | what is frustrating, that askers wait until triage reviewers check their posts? you can't do anything about this I'm afraid | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 15:37 | comment | added | Jon Clements Mod | I know it's frustrating. We just need to avoid the "something needs to be done. Here's something - so let's do something" approach. I'd rather spend a bit of time brushing away the sand than risking putting people off and the opportunity of genuine pearls. | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 15:28 | comment | added | gnat | (I know that my approach is invincible no matter how you try to find holes in it - because I invented it as a small, minimally intrusive extension over the feature that already works and is proven useful) | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 15:25 | comment | added | gnat | @JonClements sure, I did just that - I considered only questions that are going to pass triage successfully. We already force askers of these (potentially good) questions wait while triage reviewers check them and approve and compared to that passing the quiz is really minor, they at least don't have to wait while some random guy takes a look at what they wrote | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 15:16 | comment | added | Jon Clements Mod | @gnat haven't you just countered your own point? Assuming posts got triaged correctly - then it doesn't matter if you quiz someone apriori does it - good stuff gets posted and the bad stuff doesn't. | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 15:13 | comment | added | gnat | @JonClements your concern makes no sense to me sorry. We're talking about people who are already put off by the system (into triage): their questions are not going to be visible unless reviewers approve. Whether you show them that quiz or not is really minor compared to what they already have to pass through | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 15:12 | comment | added | user3956566 | @JonClements basically we need to bring this issue to a head one way or the other - the community needs the tools to be able to keep the site clean - and while it can be argued that we have the tools - they're not effective enough - if the close queue is anything to go by. | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 15:09 | comment | added | Jon Clements Mod | @Yvette I may do so once it's a bit firmer in my mind. Those are just off the top of my head thoughts and observations - nothing concrete as such. | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 15:07 | comment | added | Jon Clements Mod | Sure it'd be an extra layer of filtering ingress but it'd still be triaged and there'd be a trade off between those that are determined to pass the test to post rubbish vs those put off passing the test to post something genuine and useful | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 15:06 | comment | added | user3956566 | @JonClements that last comment would be good to put into an answer | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 15:05 | comment | added | Jon Clements Mod | gnat - my concern would be putting genuine people off before they even post. I'm not sure how I'd feel going to a site with a well defined and researched problem at hand and then being asked questions to prove I'm worthy of doing so - I may not bother. However, if the questions not worthy of being on the site got properly triaged we're not asking the proof to be on the poster (heck they could still pass the "quiz" and post about how we should buy product xyz anyway) but rather it gets triaged into unsalvagable and is deleted there. | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 14:54 | comment | added | gnat | @JonClements if I read correctly your "or" is exclusive, why? I can't see could go wrong if you do that work out based on questions that got to triage after askers broke through quiz. Quiz will likely just make number of these questions smaller which is a good thing, no? | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 14:28 | comment | added | user3956566 | Well this has encouraged me to review the triage queue - at least if good reviews are made there - that's some garbage we can clear up quickly. The issue with getting rid of garbage is it's such a lengthy process to close vote and then delete vote. I really wish the site would just do something to make it easier for us to clean it up | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 13:44 | comment | added | Jon Clements Mod | Or... We work out why the triage queue isn't working as intended and why people still let crap through and try and fix that... Manually reviewing failed audits in that queue that haven't led to an autoban is sometimes saddening - people will still say looks OK or requires editing to clear spam (and by clear I mean very very clear spam - fridge freezers, best buys in... Contact us on this number or email us at this address and view our latest offer on our website. Not those trying to wrap a genuine question around links or trying to hide links in punctuation etc...) | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 12:53 | history | edited | gnat | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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Aug 25, 2017 at 12:52 | comment | added | user3956566 | Another good way of thinking outside the box - that's what I wanted to see if we could come up with some solutions - we have such a huge site and some good brains on here - surely we can figure something out. | |
Aug 25, 2017 at 12:50 | history | answered | gnat | CC BY-SA 3.0 |