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I agree with many of the concerns expressed, particularly those of a noisy chat room, new users not bothering to click a link, and untrained mentors.

Here are some I'm not seeing addressed:

  • This sounds like a "done deal". As in even if someone links to a much better idea - even acknowledged by the OP in the comments - it won't stop this potential train wreck from falling off the cliff.

You have a problem. We have a problem. We all have a problem. Why implement a solution in a tunnel? If you want our feedback, at least don't make it sound like it doesn't matter.

  • How will you define the success or failure of this? By participation in this single chat room? By the number of down votes on a new user's question?

Before implementation of a new feature, it's normal to define this.

  • This isn't a repeat of my first point, instead it's asking why you haven't decided to revamp this "wall of text" into something more usable.

If there's something we all agree on, it's that it is a wall of text. You yourself used this as your first argument in your question! Now there's something you can do in a tunnel.

  • My last concern is the lack of using rep in any way.

When we see a first-time asker in the Ask a Question page...people who volunteer to mentor (there are no rep minimums for this room).

"When we see a first-time asker in the Ask a Question page...people who volunteer to mentor (there are no rep minimums for this room)."

This cuts both ways. I don't have much rep (compared to many here) but I have learned what makes a good question. While I can appreciateappreciated someone giving me constructive criticism when I eventually ask my first question, it's nice to know I'll be treated like some student who created their account today. (Not.) Even more, this student who may not know how to properly ask a question can work the chat room. (Ouch.) I did see something to suggest the question was edited on this - but I'm just quoting what I currently see.

My conclusion? You, we, all of us know there's a problem. I don't believe this will help much. But if it does or doesn't - can you tell me how you'll know? (Point #2.)

I agree with many of the concerns expressed, particularly those of a noisy chat room, new users not bothering to click a link, and untrained mentors.

Here are some I'm not seeing addressed:

  • This sounds like a "done deal". As in even if someone links to a much better idea - even acknowledged by the OP in the comments - it won't stop this potential train wreck from falling off the cliff.

You have a problem. We have a problem. We all have a problem. Why implement a solution in a tunnel? If you want our feedback, at least don't make it sound like it doesn't matter.

  • How will you define the success or failure of this? By participation in this single chat room? By the number of down votes on a new user's question?

Before implementation of a new feature, it's normal to define this.

  • This isn't a repeat of my first point, instead it's asking why you haven't decided to revamp this "wall of text" into something more usable.

If there's something we all agree on, it's that it is a wall of text. You yourself used this as your first argument in your question! Now there's something you can do in a tunnel.

  • My last concern is the lack of using rep in any way.

When we see a first-time asker in the Ask a Question page...people who volunteer to mentor (there are no rep minimums for this room).

This cuts both ways. I don't have much rep (compared to many here) but I have learned what makes a good question. While I can appreciate someone giving me constructive criticism when I eventually ask my first question, it's nice to know I'll be treated like some student who created their account today. (Not.) Even more, this student who may not know how to properly ask a question can work the chat room. (Ouch.) I did see something to suggest the question was edited on this but I'm just quoting what I currently see.

My conclusion? You, we, all of us know there's a problem. I don't believe this will help much. But if it does or doesn't - can you tell me how you'll know? (Point #2.)

I agree with many of the concerns expressed, particularly those of a noisy chat room, new users not bothering to click a link, and untrained mentors.

Here are some I'm not seeing addressed:

  • This sounds like a "done deal". As in even if someone links to a much better idea - even acknowledged by the OP in the comments - it won't stop this potential train wreck from falling off the cliff.

You have a problem. We have a problem. We all have a problem. Why implement a solution in a tunnel? If you want our feedback, at least don't make it sound like it doesn't matter.

  • How will you define the success or failure of this? By participation in this single chat room? By the number of down votes on a new user's question?

Before implementation of a new feature, it's normal to define this.

  • This isn't a repeat of my first point, instead it's asking why you haven't decided to revamp this "wall of text" into something more usable.

If there's something we all agree on, it's that it is a wall of text. You yourself used this as your first argument in your question! Now there's something you can do in a tunnel.

  • My last concern is the lack of using rep in any way.

"When we see a first-time asker in the Ask a Question page...people who volunteer to mentor (there are no rep minimums for this room)."

This cuts both ways. I don't have much rep (compared to many here) but I have learned what makes a good question. While I can appreciated someone giving me constructive criticism when I eventually ask my first question, it's nice to know I'll be treated like some student who created their account today. (Not.) Even more, this student who may not know how to properly ask a question can work the chat room. (Ouch.) I did see something to suggest the question was edited on this - but I'm just quoting what I currently see.

My conclusion? You, we, all of us know there's a problem. I don't believe this will help much. But if it does or doesn't - can you tell me how you'll know? (Point #2.)

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I agree with many of the concerns expressed, particularly those of a noisy chat room, new users not bothering to click a link, and untrained mentors.

Here are some I'm not seeing addressed:

  • This sounds like a "done deal". As in even if someone links to a much better idea - even acknowledged by the OP in the comments - it won't stop this potential train wreck from falling off the cliff.

You have a problem. We have a problem. We all have a problem. Why implement a solution in a tunnel? If you want our feedback, at least don't make it sound like it doesn't matter.

  • How will you define the success or failure of this? By participation in this single chat room? By the number of down votes on a new user's question?

Before implementation of a new feature, it's normal to define this.

  • This isn't a repeat of my first point, instead it's asking why you haven't decided to revamp this "wall of text" into something more usable.

If there's something we all agree on, it's that it is a wall of text. You yourself used this as your first argument in your question! Now there's something you can do in a tunnel.

  • My last concern is the lack of using rep in any way.

"When we see a first-time asker in the Ask a Question page...people who volunteer to mentor (there are no rep minimums for this room)."

When we see a first-time asker in the Ask a Question page...people who volunteer to mentor (there are no rep minimums for this room).

This cuts both ways. I don't have much rep (compared to many here) but I have learned what makes a good question. While I can appreciatedappreciate someone giving me constructive criticism when I eventually ask my first question, it's nice to know I'll be treated like some student who created their account today. (Not.) Even more, this student who may not know how to properly ask a question can work the chat room. (Ouch.) I did see something to suggest the question was edited on this - but I'm just quoting what I currently see.

My conclusion? You, we, all of us know there's a problem. I don't believe this will help much. But if it does or doesn't - can you tell me how you'll know? (Point #2.)

I agree with many of the concerns expressed, particularly those of a noisy chat room, new users not bothering to click a link, and untrained mentors.

Here are some I'm not seeing addressed:

  • This sounds like a "done deal". As in even if someone links to a much better idea - even acknowledged by the OP in the comments - it won't stop this potential train wreck from falling off the cliff.

You have a problem. We have a problem. We all have a problem. Why implement a solution in a tunnel? If you want our feedback, at least don't make it sound like it doesn't matter.

  • How will you define the success or failure of this? By participation in this single chat room? By the number of down votes on a new user's question?

Before implementation of a new feature, it's normal to define this.

  • This isn't a repeat of my first point, instead it's asking why you haven't decided to revamp this "wall of text" into something more usable.

If there's something we all agree on, it's that it is a wall of text. You yourself used this as your first argument in your question! Now there's something you can do in a tunnel.

  • My last concern is the lack of using rep in any way.

"When we see a first-time asker in the Ask a Question page...people who volunteer to mentor (there are no rep minimums for this room)."

This cuts both ways. I don't have much rep (compared to many here) but I have learned what makes a good question. While I can appreciated someone giving me constructive criticism when I eventually ask my first question, it's nice to know I'll be treated like some student who created their account today. (Not.) Even more, this student who may not know how to properly ask a question can work the chat room. (Ouch.) I did see something to suggest the question was edited on this - but I'm just quoting what I currently see.

My conclusion? You, we, all of us know there's a problem. I don't believe this will help much. But if it does or doesn't - can you tell me how you'll know? (Point #2.)

I agree with many of the concerns expressed, particularly those of a noisy chat room, new users not bothering to click a link, and untrained mentors.

Here are some I'm not seeing addressed:

  • This sounds like a "done deal". As in even if someone links to a much better idea - even acknowledged by the OP in the comments - it won't stop this potential train wreck from falling off the cliff.

You have a problem. We have a problem. We all have a problem. Why implement a solution in a tunnel? If you want our feedback, at least don't make it sound like it doesn't matter.

  • How will you define the success or failure of this? By participation in this single chat room? By the number of down votes on a new user's question?

Before implementation of a new feature, it's normal to define this.

  • This isn't a repeat of my first point, instead it's asking why you haven't decided to revamp this "wall of text" into something more usable.

If there's something we all agree on, it's that it is a wall of text. You yourself used this as your first argument in your question! Now there's something you can do in a tunnel.

  • My last concern is the lack of using rep in any way.

When we see a first-time asker in the Ask a Question page...people who volunteer to mentor (there are no rep minimums for this room).

This cuts both ways. I don't have much rep (compared to many here) but I have learned what makes a good question. While I can appreciate someone giving me constructive criticism when I eventually ask my first question, it's nice to know I'll be treated like some student who created their account today. (Not.) Even more, this student who may not know how to properly ask a question can work the chat room. (Ouch.) I did see something to suggest the question was edited on this but I'm just quoting what I currently see.

My conclusion? You, we, all of us know there's a problem. I don't believe this will help much. But if it does or doesn't - can you tell me how you'll know? (Point #2.)

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I agree with many of the concerns expressed, particularly those of a noisy chat room, new users not bothering to click a link, and untrained mentors.

Here are some I'm not seeing addressed:

  • This sounds like a "done deal". As in even if someone links to a much better idea - even acknowledged by the OP in the comments - it won't stop this potential train wreck from falling off the cliff.

You have a problem. We have a problem. We all have a problem. Why implement a solution in a tunnel? If you want our feedback, at least don't make it sound like it doesn't matter.

  • How will you define the success or failure of this? By participation in this single chat room? By the number of down votes on a new user's question?

Before implementation of a new feature, it's normal to define this.

  • This isn't a repeat of my first point, instead it's asking why you haven't decided to revamp this "wall of text" into something more usable.

If there's something we all agree on, it's that it is a wall of text. You yourself used this as your first argument in your question! Now there's something you can do in a tunnel.

  • My last concern is the lack of using rep in any way.

"When we see a first-time asker in the Ask a Question page...people who volunteer to mentor (there are no rep minimums for this room)."

This cuts both ways. I don't have much rep (compared to many here) but I have learned what makes a good question. While I can appreciated someone giving me constructive criticism when I eventually ask my first question, it's nice to know I'll be treated like some student who created their account today. (Not.) Even more, this student who may not know how to properly ask a question can work the chat room. (Ouch.) I did see something to suggest the question was edited on this - but I'm just quoting what I currently see.

My conclusion? You, we, all of us know there's a problem. I don't believe this will help much. But if it does or doesn't - can you tell me how you'll know? (Point #2.)